He was just his loli daughter grew up.
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WRS said in comment #2601188:
That's why it's also tagged inseki for the wedding rings and adoptive parent and adoptive child for the root relationship. For the tagging choice, as explained before in other comments sections and related topics (e.g. topic #36059 is in active discussion), a large amount of people already refer to Aemeath (endearingly and otherwise) as a "daughter", the game itself in no uncertain terms refers to them as family, and artist depictions of them are frequently familial, so the tagging choice is mainly to help people find this kind of content. There isn't really a misunderstanding besides from people who are still rooted in denialism.
That being said though, I review the tag sometimes and I do think that it might be considerably liberally applied when the two just exist in the same post, and that's not really the intent of relationship tags. I'm reconsidering the tags use for those cases since it leaves things less clear, especially when more than just these two are involved.
A familial bond? Sure. A parental/adoptive relationship? No. These are two widely different relationships, especially since the very idea of "family" is just a loose term to refer to close relationships. Kuro has turned those romantic before. But let's get to my point:
The game explicitly denies a parental bond. Rover was a guardian/babysitter to her for a few months, and Aemeath affirms that dynamic by dubbing herself "the child you once looked after" and the "unofficial apprentice". That characterizes their dynamic as anything but parental or adoptive, and instead points to being a guardian and mentor. If you want to add the family tag, that's appropriate because that can be interpreted in a multitude of ways, but parent and child is completely out of place here.
Kuro even banned the word "daughter" from their CN exclusive streams.
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Banning a word from one region's streams doesn't declare anything - it could easily be to prevent angering anyone who sees the character otherwise. Commonly for gacha characters that means a romantic partner. Overall, gacha relationships in general are mostly left to interpretation intentionally, with a heavier lean to always-romantic, so it's not unusual for that tone to be apparent.
While personally I've strongly argued that the text points towards a clearly familial relationship, it's important to point out that nothing, especially not the quotes you pointed out, "explicitly" deny such a relationship, but leave it as one such possibility. You can be a student or apprentice to a blood relative or not - calling yourself an apprentice doesn't nullify other bonds.
These tags are for searching and for people to be able to find this kind of content. See the topic I linked earlier. Being able to find posts like post #11377125, post #11228970, post #10729938 and post #10729451 are the intent of the tagging choice. We have babysitter but that doesn't work because her biological parents are dead and teacher and student but that's clearly not the full extent of their connection. Same goes with Umamusume characters sometimes having family tags because of the real life horses rather than the Umas themselves, or Fate characters, or ship games like Azur Lane and Kantai Collection (though that's in debate as of now).
At the very most, we do have motherly and fatherly to describe tone, but those tags don't always make sense (post #11154938 is definitely not either) when you browse the posts and read the text on them or you're an outsider looking in. Also, our use of the family tag isn't for the vague kind of idea you're describing, we have it clearly defined. There's no point making this harder to find because some people want to avoid using terms like parental or otherwise. Or like what post #10904388 references.
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Iknowme said in comment #2601193:
A familial bond? Sure. A parental/adoptive relationship? No. These are two widely different relationships, especially since the very idea of "family" is just a loose term to refer to close relationships. Kuro has turned those romantic before. But let's get to my point:
The game explicitly denies a parental bond. Rover was a guardian/babysitter to her for a few months, and Aemeath affirms that dynamic by dubbing herself "the child you once looked after" and the "unofficial apprentice". That characterizes their dynamic as anything but parental or adoptive, and instead points to being a guardian and mentor. If you want to add the family tag, that's appropriate because that can be interpreted in a multitude of ways, but parent and child is completely out of place here.
Kuro even banned the word "daughter" from their CN exclusive streams.
I mean sure but it doesn't help kuro legit added parenting books for Rover to use, if rover was just babysitting that would be fine but kuro even went so far to that rover used parenting books to raise aemeath so yes it does heavily imply aemeath is adopted daughter, anyway there even more evidence because kuro wanted cn VA to act like parents, it doesn't help also that majority of people in cn community see aemeath as a daughter as well and also the reason kuro banned the word daughter in the livestream is not because there something wrong with it, it because people on both sides were using it in a toxic way so kuro just banned it so both sides would stop being toxic, which again the cn community for wuthering waves is not united, there a big divide in cn community with wuthering waves having many different type of groups so not everyone agrees on one thing
slinger563 said in comment #2601204:
I mean sure but it doesn't help kuro legit added parenting books for Rover to use, if rover was just babysitting that would be fine but kuro even went so far to that rover used parenting books to raise aemeath so yes it does heavily imply aemeath is adopted daughter, anyway there even more evidence because kuro wanted cn VA to act like parents, it doesn't help also that majority of people in cn community see aemeath as a daughter as well and also the reason kuro banned the word daughter in the livestream is not because there something wrong with it, it because people on both sides were using it in a toxic way so kuro just banned it so both sides would stop being toxic, which again the cn community for wuthering waves is not united, there a big divide in cn community with wuthering waves having many different type of groups so not everyone agrees on one thing
Because "The Arbiter", the all-powerful leader of the Black Shores, didn't know how to care for a child. That's not supposed to be taken as a moniker for their relationship, especially when we have dialogue that confirms what their dynamic was like. The fact that Aemeath referred to Rover directly by name as a child (instead of a title) is a cliched manner to showcase that Aemeath did not see Rover as her parent. A very cliched trope.
Also, the CN streams banning "daughter" but allowing the others to keep calling her WIFE while they also sponsor creators who do the same thing, is not just fighting toxicity. It's taking a side.
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We are not going to agree on this, so I will just say my last two cents below.
You're arguing about the tone and feel, and I am arguing that you're simply making stuff up based on how others feel about it. The story never addresses either of them in a parental relationship. For starters, calling each other family is used as an umbrella term in Eastern media, it can be interpreted in many different ways (and Kuro has explicitly turned those romantic). That is probably why they use it, to keep it open.
Neither Rover and Aemeath acts as if they are parent and daughter, especially Aemeath. The way their relationship is described by Aemeath herself confirms this, because she describes Rover as a guardian and mentor. Not a parent. The fact that she called Rover directly by name as a child, instead of properly addressing him as a parent by title, reinforces how Aemeath described their dynamic and how she views Rover. She didn't see Rover as a parent.
The appropriate thing is to tag them as "family", because that is an umbrella term that encompasses all of it, and is similar to Kuro's approach, because tagging fanart (in my opinion) based on how some people search for it and feel about it, is a very, very bad argument.
I don't really know why you keep ignoring how we handle similar relationships in other copyrights and the family tag itself, which I've already explained to you how to use. What you're suggesting is straight up wrong; we don't use family for the idea of "yeah they say they're family but they aren't really" (which is just confusing in itself). You also keep saying "the dialogue confirms" and none of the quotes you're throwing out confirm anything you said. I see you doing this in other comments sections too. I can't really trust your judgement on knowing what you're talking about when you've gotten this wrong with other posts too.
As far as Danbooru goes, these are the best fitting tags that can be applied to the posts. Tags are for searching; we care about these posts being reachable for people who want to see the theme of the posts or for gooners who want to crank one out because they like the idea of a forbidden relationship. If an artist is drawing them with the intent of a forbidden familial relationship, then we want people to be able to find those posts, that matters more to us. Someone should absolutely be able to find post #11154776 by searching inseki. Arguing semantics to avoid calling it something you don't agree with, no matter how true or not, ultimately falls flat if people can't do the aforementioned.
ETA: At the very most, what could be considered is to avoid tagging current Aemeath and the Rovers with those tags and reserve it only in cases of Aemeath (Young) and posts that are specifically depicting that relationship, but it absolutely does apply given everything from the source material, and not teacher and student.
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