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Trance Tina Branford

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Alright, for this one I'll ask before doing anything drastic.

In FFIX, everyone and their dog is capable of Trance, with Kuja's resulting in a seperate name: Trance Kuja.

In FFVI, only Tina ("Terra", as the site is currently insistent upon) is capable of such a transformation (or Morph, as English-speakers had known it until FFVIA). So far, I have the pictures featuring this form tagged with "trance", but there's got to be a better way to distinguish this alternate form.

Suggestions:

  • tina_branford_(trance)
  • trance_tina_branford
  • trance_(ff)
  • trance_(final_fantasy)

The first is similar to how similarly named characters are distinguished, though setting a precedent with this would entitle characters like Rydia to have extra form-defining tags, which might be a but much.
The second takes after FFIX's convention with Kuja; I personally feel it doesn't 'sound' good.
The third and fourth I like the most, since the tags can be applied to FFIX characters (or any other mechanics-crossover situations); which tag is used is up to preference, since series-specific designations use the abbreviation, but I want to say I've seen the series-wide application fully spelled out.

Updated by salarta

I fail to see how "trance" has any application to FFVI. The word wasn't used once in the game as far as I know. FFIX characters can transform due to a limit-break type power. Terra can transform because she's half esper or whatever. The term doesn't apply.

Since that's the only character that does something like that outside of 9, you should leave it alone. There's no point in making a whole subset of tags for a single character.

solomon said:
The word wasn't used once in the game as far as I know.

"Trance" is the name of Terra's special command in FFVI, in the original Japanese version and Final Fantasy VI Advance translation (it's called "Morph" in the older translation for the SNES and PS versions). If you're talking about it being used in the story dialogue, then I'm not sure and you may be right.

Since the transformed Terra is a distinct form, I think it's good to have some sort of tag to distinguish it, though I had been using "esper" before. There's really no point in disambiguating the "trance" tag anyway since it's not ambiguous right now anyway.

So, what, add "trance" (and "esper" for Tina's specific Trance) for the time being and leave it at that? Sounds alright. Hm... what other espers are there...? For that matter, now that FFIV has taken on the "Eidolon" term (outside of the Japanese "phantom beasts" or whatever it most closely comes out as, anyway), how, or even should, summons get their own distinctors? Would "esper" be applied to all FF summons?

EDIT: On the note of Ms. Branford, could someone with the propoer privileges change the alias around? It's mildly agitating that this popular character hasn't succumbed to the "original name" policy.

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I just tested searching for "edward_chris_von_muir". Recently, a couple of aliases were passed so that "edward..." and "gilbert...", both names more known to fans, would change to "gilbart_chris_von_muir", SE's official take. I still got all the results as if I had searched for the standing tag. "tina_branford" can be instated while stil turning up results for "terra_branford", so long as the alias status exists.

Rengeki_Storm said: I think most people know her as Terra though

That's not necessarily the criteria used, though. If the other characters have their original names, so should she. This is why aliases exist.

While on this subject: FINAL FANTASY TACTICS WAS A BITCH! I mean, _damn_, there were a lot of name changes (with some of them just being a matter of one friggin' letter!).

BTW: Since there's more than one "Ultima" character build, Altima will/would have the tag "ultima_(fft)" (with "altima" as alias), and the esper/totema/whatever else will/would have the "ultima_(ffta)" tag (with "ultima" as a [possible] alias); "ffta" chosen due to overarching nature (what with FFTA2) and because this is where that build was first seen. Agreeable?

EDIT: Gah! "vivi_orunitia", the modified NA name, is aliased with "vivi". The alias needs to read "vivi_orunitia" -> "vivi_ornitier". (Trivia: Some [early] copies of FFIX's NA instruction manual use the original name.) Does anyone happen to have a scan or something proving that "ornitier" is the standing most-official name? The Character ULTIMANIA, perhaps?

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T5J8F8 said:
Since there's more than one "Ultima" character build, Altima will/would have the tag "ultima_(fft)" (with "altima" as alias), and the esper/totema/whatever else will/would have the "ultima_(ffta)" tag (with "ultima" as a [possible] alias); "ffta" chosen due to overarching nature (what with FFTA2) and because this is where that build was first seen. Agreeable?

"Altima->Ultima_(fft)" yes, "ultima->ultima_(ffta)" not quite. The name is repeatedly used in FF and many other games for a variety of stuff. Just leave "ultima" alone and make ultima_(ffta) a separate tag. Speaking of which, is the FFTA version even the same as the FFXII one?

Ephyon said:
Speaking of which, is the FFTA version even the same as the FFXII one?

Eh, pokin' around on the FF Wikia (from whence I referenced the FFT changes (save Mustard-guy, whose change was apparently not significant enough to note, though it might've been what one of the edit history posts thought was a typo)), the FFTA Ultima looks similar enough to the FFXII Ultima that they might as well fall under the same tag. Same with FFTA2's. I just figure that FFT's Ivalice and the FFTA-like Ivalice would warrant the simple "add an 'a'" approach, rather than connecting it with the strange offshoot that is a main-series FF based on a side-series FF(s).

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