Translations not tagged as such

I've been seeing it a lot lately: Posts will be translated by someone but without adding the Translated tag.

This is no problem for anything still somewhat close to the front pages, but if the image happens to be a bit old, there's a fairly good chance nobody will ever see the translation, as it would require them to re-open an image they've probably already seen and might have saved already. I've even had the surprise of suddenly opening some old image I posted and given up hope of anyone translating, and surprise, there it was.

For that reason I've been wondering: Is there any way to search for posts that contain notes specifically? If I could do something like “Search: [-translated] [“has notes” variable]” it’d be much easier to just go and fix the stuff, as there aren’t really THAT many cases.

Ephyon said: For that reason I've been wondering: Is there any way to search for posts that contain notes specifically? If I could do something like “Search: [-translated] [“has notes” variable]” it’d be much easier to just go and fix the stuff, as there aren’t really THAT many cases.

We've asked before about getting more flexibility for searching such meta tags and such, but I think the response was that it's harder/more resource intensive than it sounds.

A good idea if it can be implemented though.

Ephyon said:
I've been seeing it a lot lately: Posts will be translated by someone but without adding the Translated tag.

I often do this when I attempt to translate a post, because I lack confidence in my Japanese ability and would like someone fluent to check it over. As I understood it, leaving the translation_request tag in place is the accepted etiquette for such a situation. It'd be nice to establish another tag for that, though, such as translation_check.

Using "has notes" criteria to remove translation_request is also a problem if you have posts that were only partially translated.

A translation_check tag would indeed be nice to have. I've seen the partially_translated tag being used too.

7HS said: I often do this when I attempt to translate a post, because I lack confidence in my Japanese ability and would like someone fluent to check it over. As I understood it, leaving the translation_request tag in place is the accepted etiquette for such a situation.

If you were only able to translate some of it, go with partially_translated. If you translated it all but aren't confident, translation_check sounds like a good tag.

However, in the first instance I'd still also leave 'translation_request' on the image. IN the second I'd still also leave 'translated'. That way people who aren't aware of the more specific partial/check tags will still find translated, or not fully translated, images.

I'd also leave a comment asking for verification to bring attention to the post. I usually do if I'm uncertain.

http://danbooru.donmai.us/note exists so this must already be implemented even though there's no "has notes" metatag.

7HS said:
I often do this when I attempt to translate a post, because I lack confidence in my Japanese ability and would like someone fluent to check it over. As I understood it, leaving the translation_request tag in place is the accepted etiquette for such a situation. It'd be nice to establish another tag for that, though, such as translation_check.

Nah, leave a comment in such a situation. If you want someone to go over your work, you should state that clearly, otherwise no-one will notice it, and it's not at all obvious that you, in fact, want it checked.

Unfortunately, the people who would write useful comments seem to have a lot of qualms about posting them, while the jerkasses who post stuff like "i wana fuk her jejeje" spam away with full abandon. Can't you guys swap places?

LaC said:
Unfortunately, the people who would write useful comments seem to have a lot of qualms about posting them

Yeah, that's true. It's not like we're even hostile on those who comment or anything.

Bumping for question, is the Translation_Check tag encouraged?
cause I've found only a single picture with that tag, or did I miss all Translation_check cause a translator just did a sweep?

I missed this thread the first time around, but as long as it's come around again, I'd just like to throw in for the translation_check as standard. I always comment when I don't fully understand something I'm translating, but comments can quickly get buried in the aforementioned "i wana fuk her jejeje" comments. It would be good to have a way to search such translations.

Ephyon said:
If I could do something like “Search: [-translated] [“has notes” variable]” it’d be much easier to just go and fix the stuff, as there aren’t really THAT many cases.

Yeah, I wouldn't have expected there to be that many cases. But don't forget about the posts whose notes are not translations, but instead contain characters' names and so forth. Like certain everyone posts.

antx said: Bumping for question, is the Translation_Check tag encouraged?

It's not in common use, but I don't think it would hurt anything...?

I said this two months ago:
"If you were only able to translate some of it, go with partially_translated. If you translated it all but aren't confident, translation_check sounds like a good tag.

However, in the first instance I'd still also leave 'translation_request' on the image. IN the second I'd still also leave 'translated'. That way people who aren't aware of the more specific partial/check tags will still find translated, or not fully translated, images."

And nobody seemed to object much... that still sound fair to everyone?

Yep, sounds fine.