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I'd like to propose the in-universe_location tag. It would function similarly to real_world_location, but for locations from fictional universes. In the case of universes that feature modified versions of real world locations (such as the Mt. Fuji that appears in Code Geass) I would suggest using both tags.
What would constitute an "in-universe location?" Prism Tower, Saitama's apartment, Final Destination?
Real world location is not a catch-all tag for famous landmarks, it is for faithful, accurate depictions of real world locations. As in, it looks (presumably) exactly or nearly like it would if you actually went there in person. Only three mount fuji posts on site count as a real world locations, because tagging a fictional version of the mountain as a real world location makes no sense.
Unless the intent is for in-universe location to just be an umbrella tag for named fictional locations, it would be useless if it didn't follow similar rules as real world location. Otherwise it would just be flooded with unrelated things from entirely different franchises just because there's a recognizable building that happens to be present.
blindVigil said:
Real world location is not a catch-all tag for famous landmarks, it is for faithful, accurate depictions of real world locations. As in, it looks (presumably) exactly or nearly like it would if you actually went there in person. Only three mount fuji posts on site count as a real world locations, because tagging a fictional version of the mountain as a real world location makes no sense.
I had no idea that real_world_location was for accurate portrayals. That kind of criteria is much more suited for a pool, with the real_world_location tag being for any real-world location regardless of how accurately it is depicted. When people hear the phrase "real world location", they think "a location that exists in the real world", not "a location that exists in the real world that has been recreated with detailed accuracy".
Unless the intent is for in-universe location to just be an umbrella tag for named fictional locations, it would be useless if it didn't follow similar rules as real world location. Otherwise it would just be flooded with unrelated things from entirely different franchises just because there's a recognizable building that happens to be present.
Only using it for faithful, accurate depictions is just not a feasible way to enforce this tag. It's unintuitive for the same reason I outlined in regards to real_world_location, but there's a second hurdle in that many franchises have sequels, remakes and remasters that feature the same locations with new layouts. The Gyms in Pokémon game remakes, for example, often look very different to their original designs despite being the "same location", and if that's not enough they also have unique designs in the anime (as do most of the in-game locations, actually). Figuring out if the artist took liberties with the location's appearance or if it's just one of seven different iterations of the same building interior is a headache that should not be thrust upon casual taggers.
I think a pool for accurate depictions of in-universe locations would be a good idea, though. Those who care about maintaining it wouldn't be constantly gardening a tag that casual users keep accidentally poisoning.
I like the tag suggestion, we currently have a lot of pokemon specific location tags which could be replaced with this new tag, or at least the ones with few posts. I do think that real world location is fine as it is, there is also the landmark tag which sounds like it should work like what you want to change real world location to.
I agree, that especially small location tags can easily be merged into a in-universe location tag.
Unless the intent is for in-universe location to just be an umbrella tag for named fictional locations, it would be useless if it didn't follow similar rules as real world location. Otherwise it would just be flooded with unrelated things from entirely different franchises just because there's a recognizable building that happens to be present.
I don't agree with that hard-wiki given in real_world_location, for the same reason Zapdos pretty much explained. I agree that it's not helpful to use the tag, just because there's maybe a Pokemon-Center somewhere on the image but no real location, but a 100% or even a 95% depiction of the given location isn't always possible and depends on the style of an artist. But tbh, the in-universe location tag is kinda for copyright-nerds. I don't expect of a new or older user to know all the pokemon locations.
Another question I have is, how to handle locations like Student Council rooms as in post #4354962?
Gonna bump this because it came up again in discord when discussing all the tags related to pokemon. There are a handful of places (see post #3038816) that only have a few tags. I am also bringing this up because there are a bunch of places in Ragnarok Online (i.e. post #4410685 and post #4190297) I want to tag, without creating a tag that will probably only ever get 5 posts.
Using in-universe location as a catch all for these smaller tags would be extremely useful as a way to avoid tag padding. The only trouble that I could foresee is with location tags on the larger side like hakurei shrine. But even for those, it serve as a catch-all so you can do touhou in-universe_location to find hakugyokurou and eientei as well.
If the only objections to this are minor, I can start adding it to the RO pics I have uploaded.
