Hello I'd like to know what people think of tagging Ishtar and Eresh as sisters, I've seen numerous people tag them as sisters before. I see people often refer to them as sisters, as they coexist in Fate lore together as beings from one entity and exist as sister beings, one light and one dark. Veradux has taken it upon themselves to remove the tag entirely, and I don't think it makes much sense, and it's something that should be discussed with the community in my opinion. I strongly think it should have been discussed with the community before they took action.
Well they're listed listed as sisters on the wiki as you said. Along with them being a ying/yang - light/dark dynamic where they exist from the same entity as sister beings.
blindVigil is someone who has helped me with tagging before, and I'd like to ask their take. Is there also a way to make a community vote or poll on this subject? I believe there should be more discussion on this subject.
There's not really anything to discuss. As I said, if you find a concrete line of them being sisters, go for it. But I can pull up the English profiles for Ishtar, Summer Ishtar, and Ereshkigal in game (since I play it and have them) and see nothing about them being sisters. Slap down a screenshot or a dialogue listing or really anything. But I removed them because the reasoning you gave isn't valid. "They are in the original mythology" is largely irrelevant. And "it doesn't say they're not" is just silly.
It's also not really a topic for Danbooru specifically. You could probably find any old Fate forum, discord, or what have you and ask there as it's a Fate lore question.
There's not really anything to discuss. As I said, if you find a concrete line of them being sisters, go for it. But I can pull up the English profiles for Ishtar, Summer Ishtar, and Ereshkigal in game (since I play it and have them) and see nothing about them being sisters. Slap down a screenshot or a dialogue listing or really anything. But I removed them because the reasoning you gave isn't valid. "They are in the original mythology" is largely irrelevant. And "it doesn't say they're not" is just silly.
It's also not really a topic for Danbooru specifically. You could probably find any old Fate forum, discord, or what have you and ask there as it's a Fate lore question.
So after asking around. The general thoughts I got were: "They are flip sides of the same goddess. Ishtar by day, eresh by night is one interpretation."
They're two parts to a whole and sister goddesses by nature of light and dark. - Saw someone else say: "Eresh is described as Inanna's (Ishtar's) older sister in the story about Ishtar's descent into the underworld to try and conquer it, which resulted in Ishtar getting killed (temporarily) for her troubles." - And I saw another person say unless Fate specifically changes the lore themselves and states the changes, then the myth follows the actual myth it's based on. Which I tried saying something similar to you before, though maybe not worded as well as that, but you said it was a horrible reason to tag them as sisters. I still believe that logic holds water, and holds water for most of the Fate fandom.
Anyhow, I'm curious if more people on this site have thoughts on this subject. Maybe it's late though, and we'll see more in the morning.
Edit: I also saw someone bring up how they share the same father, which is also listed on the Type Moon wiki. - Edit 2: Going to get some sleep myself. I'll rejoin the conversation when I can.
And I saw another person say unless Fate specifically changes the lore themselves and states the changes, then the myth follows the actual myth it's based on. Which I tried saying something similar to you before, though maybe not worded as well as that, but you said it was a horrible reason to tag them as sisters. I still believe that logic holds water, and holds water for most of the Fate fandom.
No, no it doesn't. "It doesn't say they're not" is not how we tag. Fate may follow mythology, but it also makes Paul Bunyan into a loli.
No, no it doesn't. "It doesn't say they're not" is not how we tag. Fate may follow mythology, but it also makes Paul Bunyan into a loli.
Find me a line in the game that says it.
My point was that Fate made Paul into a loli as a specific stated change, unless the change is stated directly like this then the lore follows the myth. I understand you don't think things should be tagged like this, fair enough, but my point still stands as what's accepted by the Fate fandom. All of the myth content that's not explicitly stated in Fate is accepted by the fandom as part of the myth and characters, and is used in fan content. Unless Fate specifically states something was changed, like Paul being a loli, there is no reason for it have changed and it would make no sense for it to have changed. They're directly pulling from the myth otherwise, and it's why the Fate fandom accepts this as a rule of thumb. I'm only stating what's accepted by the fandom and the logic within there, again I understand you're someone that doesn't follow that and that it goes against what you think are the tagging rules. I know Danbooru and the Fate fandom are two different things with their own rules, so there's nothing else to be said on the subject and I think we can move on.
Terrorista0125 said: Here's Ereshkigal's profile from the Official USA site.
All of the myth content that's not explicitly stated in Fate is accepted by the fandom as part of the myth and characters, and is used in fan content.
What's accepted by the fandom is not what is canon and is not how we tag things on Danbooru. Full stop. We can't accept what might be specifically because Fate may decide to change it.
