Alias muscular_shota to muscular_child

BUR #9976 has been rejected.

create alias muscular_shota -> muscular_male_child
create alias muscular_loli -> muscular_female_child
create implication muscular_male_child -> muscular_child
create implication muscular_female_child -> muscular_child
create implication muscular_child -> muscular

Follow-up to topic #20993, specifically forum #210546. Renaming the main tag to muscular child makes it applicable for not just boys, but also girls (also keeping in line with how, for general tags, we mainly use shota/loli relationally, i.e the -dom and onee- tags). Additionally, searching muscular child would sooner present you older muscular people with children, so those who wants to search depictions of youths with prominent musculature for their age would have to dig further in.

EDIT: With male child and female child now a thing, the BUR has been updated appropriately.

I would at least prefer an alias personally, because this tag is something I've seen mentioned online and it's also a pixiv tag. Meanwhile muscular_child is something I haven't heard of before.

Admiral_Pectoral said:

I would at least prefer an alias personally, because this tag is something I've seen mentioned online and it's also a pixiv tag. Meanwhile muscular_child is something I haven't heard of before.

Hm, that would make sense, though in that case I'd also have to add an alias for muscular lolis.

Changed the BUR from a rename to an alias, including not just muscular lolis, but also an implication for muscular in line with muscular male and muscular female.

I think your last line is backwards.

Unbreakable said:

I think your last line is backwards.

It's been a while since I last did implications in BURs, so probably.

While I'm indifferent to the change. I've been thinking about it and I would like to have a gender distinction such as muscular loli and muscular shota rather then lump it all as muscular child.

Because doing it this way if anybody is interested in looking for muscular lolis, all they'll get are muscular boys because that's primarily what I'm going to up. So to label it all muscular child wouldn't be fair to that group.

Similarly how shotacons feel about finding sfw male children on gelbooru and danbooru because there's not a specific gender tag and usually it's a sfw loli, if you can even find some at all. Heck, Zapados routinely have to tell user on gelbooru not to label sfw boys, shota.

But... in the grand scheme of things, not many people are looking for muscular little girls, heck muscular shota isn't even that popular among the shota crowd tbh so I'm sure most people will probably be "meh" about making the name genderless.

I imagine more generally there is an underlying sentiment that it would be better if we in general had gendered distinctions for children. If we had individual non-sexual tags for male and female children already, I would have appropriately renamed/aliased the muscular tag to the former. But we don't.

For the time being, this functions, but when the time comes and someone finally proposes we split the child tag in two, so too will this tag. If nothing else, this will at least encourage those that find muscular little girls to tag them.

Damian0358 said:

I imagine more generally there is an underlying sentiment that it would be better if we in general had gendered distinctions for children. If we had individual non-sexual tags for male and female children already, I would have appropriately renamed/aliased the muscular tag to the former. But we don't.

For the time being, this functions, but when the time comes and someone finally proposes we split the child tag in two, so too will this tag. If nothing else, this will at least encourage those that find muscular little girls to tag them.

I only bring it up because we use tags to find things easily and I know a lot of guys that wish they could find sfw shota easily. It's the only tag we naturally think of first since 1boy can be for both a man or boy.

I imagine the same will happen with this tag too. However, I don't think the lolicon is really interested in looking for muscular loli

But, the world is filled with all kinds. At which point i hope it won't be too hard to untangle.

As for me, I don't really mind what we call it. I like seeing it all. But i do know people who mind a great deal and thought i would voice for them since there doesn't seem to be that much input for this tag change.

Changed to downvote because these tags are fucking stupid now. Kind of low to change the BUR so drastically a month after making it after votes have settled.

Talulah said:

Changed to downvote because these tags are fucking stupid now. Kind of low to change the BUR so drastically a month after making it after votes have settled.

I wouldn't have counted the current votes on the BUR as valid myself for that same reason. But as you said, it's been a month - if it were to have passed, it would have done so weeks ago.

Still, I don't disagree on the notion of there possibly being too much granularity. I can easily switch it back to it just aliasing muscular child.

Talulah said:

Changed to downvote because these tags are fucking stupid now. Kind of low to change the BUR so drastically a month after making it after votes have settled.

Same. female child and male child might be good tags I guess, but muscular female child and muscular male child are too much and sounds bizarre. Muscular child combined with either female child/male child are pretty much more than enough.

The bulk update request #9976 (forum #211005) has been rejected by @NWF_Renim.

Given the drastic change in the BUR, you can resubmit it so people can revote on it without the legacy votes messing up the count.

BUR #10525 has been approved by @nonamethanks.

create alias muscular_shota -> muscular_child
create alias muscular_loli -> muscular_child
create alias muscular_male_child -> muscular_child
create alias muscular_female_child -> muscular_child
create implication muscular_child -> muscular

Option 1, the original choice of having everything under muscular child.

BUR #10526 has been rejected.

create alias muscular_shota -> muscular_male_child
create alias muscular_loli -> muscular_female_child
create implication muscular_male_child -> muscular_child
create implication muscular_female_child -> muscular_child
create implication muscular_child -> muscular

Option 2, the overly granular option.

BUR #10628 has been rejected.

create implication female_child -> child
create implication male_child -> child
create implication muscular_child -> child

They are all children, therefore subsets

There is a BUR already pending in forum #213721. muscular child only matter if BUR #10525 passes anyway.

GabrielWB said:

BUR #10628 has been rejected.

create implication female_child -> child
create implication male_child -> child
create implication muscular_child -> child

They are all children, therefore subsets

There's already a BUR about that happening: forum #213721, you can ask to add muscular child to it.

Talulah said:

There is a BUR already pending in forum #213721. muscular child only matter if BUR #10525 passes anyway.

Hyozen said:

There's already a BUR about that happening: forum #213721, you can ask to add muscular child to it.

Oh ffs. Thanks for that

The bulk update request #10628 (forum #214174) has been rejected by @GabrielWB.