Tagging 2P/3P source on official arts?

So it was brought up to me on post #6337482 by @Individual that key visual and other official artwork posted here should be tagged as second party or third-party sources as it's not from the artist's social media account. Would that be true, in spite of the artwork being meant to be posted on there instead of the artist's social media? If that were the case then would that warrant a BUR where most official art that isn't posted on the artist's Twitter or Pixiv accounts needing to have the tags implicated?

Usually I'd tag 2P or 3P sources on official arts only if the official art was taken from yande.re or other unofficial sources, and *maybe* the source tweet credits an artist that already have their own personal Twitter accounts.

I think second-party source is good to have on say, if it's like a writer's or editor's official Twitter account, posting stuff from the illustrator, so that no one is confused and adds their links to the artist's wiki page by mistake, as I've seen happen a few times. Official anime websites like that don't really have that issue, and so I don't think second-party source is really necessary, particularly if the individual artist(s) are not even known.

EB said:

I think second-party source is good to have on say, if it's like a writer's or editor's official Twitter account, posting stuff from the illustrator, so that no one is confused and adds their links to the artist's wiki page by mistake, as I've seen happen a few times.

Yeah, that's one of the things I try to avoid happening.

Jnglmpera said:

If that were the case then would that warrant a BUR where most official art that isn't posted on the artist's Twitter or Pixiv accounts needing to have the tags implicated?

No, if what I do isn't plain wrong, it's best to manually tag posts. There are artists who upload to sites you'd generally treat as third-party and posts with the source in the comments. You could tag script posts sourced from brand accounts though.

EB said:

Official anime websites like that don't really have that issue, and so I don't think second-party source is really necessary, particularly if the individual artist(s) are not even known.

It might be seen as superfluous tagging, but it helps me to search for posts not directly sourced from artists and filter posts with unknown artists without having to search for specific source:link.

EB said:

I think second-party source is good to have on say, if it's like a writer's or editor's official Twitter account, posting stuff from the illustrator, so that no one is confused and adds their links to the artist's wiki page by mistake, as I've seen happen a few times. Official anime websites like that don't really have that issue, and so I don't think second-party source is really necessary, particularly if the individual artist(s) are not even known.

That was my approach on what I'd consider primary sources or not for key visuals and what not, especially since 80% of the time we don't know for sure who the actual artist is even supposed to be for them, unlike magazine pinups.

Individual said:
It might be seen as superfluous tagging, but it helps me to search for posts not directly sourced from artists and filter posts with unknown artists without having to search for specific source:link.

May I suggest using the minus function to rule out posts that don't fit your criteria? ie. "-key-visual (and/or any other tags of your choice)", for this specific situation.

Jnglmpera said:

May I suggest using the minus function to rule out posts that don't fit your criteria? ie. "artist:none -key-visual", for this specific situation.

That's what I meant, like arttags:0 second-party_source official_art; -arttags:0 second-party_source -official_art; arttags:0 -second-party_source -official_art and more complex searches.

My opinion is that considering something sourced from a company the same as the actual artist is giving it special treatment over consistency. Now, second-party source's wiki should be edited to convey the special cases otherwise. If that's the consensus, correcting my tagging until now shouldn't be a problem.