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Weibo ID/username alias

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vow said:

I'm not sure what you mean by this. The logo doesn't contain any information that would lead to the profile. The username is the part that is a means of identification (ID).

What I'm saying is that people usually tag weibo logo for the little watermark. You are saying that weibo id is used for the weibo logo by people who don't know it exists. So if that's the case, you'd want to alias it to weibo logo.

...Though now that I think about it, it's possible I misread. Your stated reason specified the logo specifically, which made your desired alias confusing to me. So which is it a duplicate tag of? Username or logo? Because if I were shown weibo id without any surrounding context, I'd assume you'd be correct.

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Maiden_in_Orange said:

What I'm saying is that people usually tag weibo logo for the little watermark. You are saying that weibo id is used for the weibo logo by people who don't know it exists. So if that's the case, you'd want to alias it to weibo logo.

...Though now that I think about it, it's possible I misread. Your stated reason specified the logo specifically, which made your desired alias confusing to me. So which is it a duplicate tag of? Username or logo? Because if I were shown weibo id without any surrounding context, I'd assume you'd be correct.

I assume weibo id is being used to refer to weibo username. The watermark adds both the logo and the username.
The weibo logo is separate but it is part of the watermark, so the tags are often mutual.

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Knowledge Seeker

vow said:

I assume weibo id is being used to refer to weibo username. The watermark adds both the logo and the username.
The weibo logo is separate but it is part of the watermark, so the tags are often mutual.

Yeah. Sorry if I came across too harshly there. I think it just wasn't clear what you were referring to there, which made me think you misunderstood going by your explanation. I'll flip my vote, as I am for aliasing this tag in some form.

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magcolo

Sessyoin_Kiara said:

When I read Weibo ID I think about the actual user ID, not the screen name of the user.

That might be the intended use, but it quickly descended into chaos so we need some heavy cleanup if we want to keep that tag.

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Dolmatov

Technically, an alias (ID = username) cannot be called correct. The name of the page (profile) is not the same as the digital unique identifier.
Posts may contain an ID or a link with an ID without a username. post #2495007.

I didn't find any posts with a "clean" ID outside the link format. I think we should make the "weibo id" ambiguous. Create an alternative to weibo_link, weibo_profile_link, weibo_profile_link or a similar clear tag. post #3889356 post #4068789 - in this cases, a page URL is used, which does not necessarily contain the username(s), but fits the general weibo link tag.

post #4113327 post #7172930 - some artists equate ID to page/username, similar to twitter addresses. I don't think such isolated cases should have priority.

Conclusion. If we want to save weibo_id in the literal sense of the page number, then it is enough to ensure that the tag is correct and clean up the posts. There will be an analogue of pixiv_id. If we want to separate page addresses/names/id, then we need an additional tag. Weibo has 3 types of page visits: domain name (个性域名) of the page as an exact link (weibo_com/pagename), page visit by username (nickname, weibo_com/n/name) and visit by digital ID (.../u/ID). The URL link can be any of the following types.

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Diet_Soda said:

While we're at it, the overwhelming majority of weibo username and weibo logo denotes the same consolidated element, the default weibo watermark. It should probably get a weibo watermark tag to itself, with weibo username and weibo logo repurposed for the rare instances of standalone usernames and logos added manually by the artist.

This is a better idea, and I agree with what Dolmatov said as well. I haven't seen many artists add their profile URL as a watermark, most of them leave the default username & logo combo, so this is why I requested an alias, but it's not the identification number.

I agree with creating a weibo watermark tag that represents the small white watermark in the bottom right corner.

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Diet Soda

nonamethanks said:

BUR #24017 has been approved by @nonamethanks.

rename weibo_id -> weibo_watermark
create alias weibo_username -> weibo_watermark

As above.

There are manually added weibo logos/usernames that aren't the default watermark, like post #5499133 post #5138350. Might want weibo username to stay distinct for consistency with twitter username, patreon username etc, none of which are automated watermarks.

I was thinking weibo username + weibo logo could be mass replaced with weibo watermark after the exceptions have been picked out into a favgroup.

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Dolmatov

Diet_Soda said:

There are manually added weibo logos/usernames that aren't the default watermark, like post #5499133 post #5138350.

watermark

An image containing text <...>. Typically to identifies the owner/creator of the work and/or prevent the image from being counterfeited.

By direct definition it fits. Copyright can be presented in the form of text (link, email, nickname, etc.), an image, or a combination thereof.
If you follow this logic, then copyright tags from other sites (id, username) also imply that they are watermarks. post #7288186
The lack of connection between tags (implication) is indicated by the fact that the name/id/link in the picture will not always be a watermark, i.e. third-party overlay. topic #19612 has a similar explanation for a similar case.
The lack of this mental connection and the wiki description is likely due to the concept of an analogue watermark. Users are more accustomed to specifying a direct tag than to look for information about indirect signs of tag connections.
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/digital-watermark
It is possible that it would be useful to make such a tag and such a description.

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Diet Soda

Dolmatov said:

The idea behind my post was to create a tag for one specific, visually distinct element, the default watermark added by weibo (see bottom right of post #7287545). weibo_username weibo_logo is literally just this, which is why I think it should be consolidated into a single tag and distinguished from credits added manually by the artist.
weibo watermark feels like the most apt name for it, it doesn't preclude weibo username or weibo logo from being watermarks too.

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Dolmatov

Your reasoning makes some sense. There are tags pixiv logo, patreon logo. However, the site logo itself is not a legal element. Do not mix watermark types. A site watermark cannot refer to a tag of the same name by the definition of the tag (watermark).
Posts can contain multiple tags: weibo_logo, weibo_username, watermark (artist owned image/text) etc.

We are currently disambiguating watermark views for weibo attributions. Option to combine into "weibo_watermark" the most suitable option. Why do we need to look for URL/ID/username separately? We are able to distinguish one from the other if we want to visit the artist's page.
The only difference from ID tags (pixiv_id) is that we do not directly use the artist ID (with negligible exceptions). So we can link this tag to a common tag. This does not take into account the option of creating redundant tags, when weibo_watermark will include child tags (id/url/username/etc).

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Dolmatov

By the way, the automatic addition of watermarks to the artist’s pictures corresponds to the watermark tag. There is no division between manual and automated copyright addition.
If a post with an automatic non-artist tag is uploaded, then this will already be third-party watermark. There is no need for a separate tag for the Weibo tag, like any other “gallery” of pictures.

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