It would be nice if someone were to write a cygames character wiki if we're going to split characters across different copytag disambiguators that appear very frequently in art for multiple games. Currently tagging something like shadowverse requires a lot of awkward typing of multiple copyrights if you're not a cygames expert.
Example: I know a post has a "Medusa" character and it's Shadowverse art. I check "list of shadowverse characters" where she isn't, it turns out she has GBF costume tags, but those costume tags actually imply medusa_(shingeki no bahamut)...
Related specific issue: There seems to be a character "Rose Queen" from shingeki no bahamut where all of that character's art has been folded into rosetta (granblue fantasy). This seems out of line with other cygames tagging and from what I can tell from talking in the Discord and individual research doesn't really seem to be right?
Some kind of other tag or alias is clearly needed but I'm not a Cygames character expert so I don't know which it should be.
It would be nice if someone were to write a cygames character wiki if we're going to split characters across different copytag disambiguators that appear very frequently in art for multiple games. Currently tagging something like shadowverse requires a lot of awkward typing of multiple copyrights if you're not a cygames expert.
there are characters that appear in multiple games but thats because of a collab. for example, narmaya from granblue is in ROB and shadowverse but thats because she was released as part of card sets based directly on granblue fantasy. just to make sure we are on the same page but then the granblue fantasy disamiguator would be appropriate right?
outside of examples like this, the list of characters is a small percentage of the characters.
on a slightly related note, id be willing to make a wiki for the multi-game appearing cygames characters and their appearances if that helps
rosetta and rose queen are the same character but there was no characterization of rose queen pre-rosetta if im not mistaken
If this is the case, then there should be an alias and the parenthesized copyright probably shouldn't be GBF (as the character is pre-GBF, as far as I can tell). External sources like the GBF wiki that's referred to on the granblue fantasy page do seem to treat them as different ("similar-looking recruitable character"), however?
If this is the case, then there should be an alias and the parenthesized copyright probably shouldn't be GBF (as the character is pre-GBF, as far as I can tell). External sources like the GBF wiki that's referred to on the granblue fantasy page do seem to treat them as different ("similar-looking recruitable character"), however?
lore-wise, rosetta is an incarnation of rose queen so take that as u will
im assuming people just didnt give a fuck and tagged them as the same character just cause of visual identicalness
Wait I just realize but if its a list of all cygames characters, would that mean things like idolmaster and uma musume would be on it even thought there isnt any recycled characters?
Yeah, I'm not sure about something that's actually a "list of cygames characters" for the reason that umamusume and such definitely don't need to be included
Still it's pretty awkward to search for the multi-game characters' proper tag (especially when some of them are buried behind a ton of non-cygames tags), if anyone has an alternative solution to propose I'd appreciate it
Wait I just realize but if its a list of all cygames characters, would that mean things like idolmaster and uma musume would be on it even thought there isnt any recycled characters?
Cygames doesn't own Idolmaster anyway, they only manage the games of Idolmaster Cinderella Girls, so you could skip over it in the new list. I say this, but Uzuki, Mio, and Rin appeared in Princess Connect! as collab characters years ago.
Cygames doesn't own Idolmaster anyway, they only manage the games of Idolmaster Cinderella Girls, so you could skip over it in the new list. I say this, but Uzuki, Mio, and Rin appeared in Princess Connect! as collab characters years ago.
i dont think its a good idea to consider characters that appear in a copyright due to a collab as part of that copyright
I tried to see if there was a term in Japanese that fans used to lump these games together, and I failed to find anything, so there's really only two options: the first is to invoke Bahamut in some fashion, as Bahamut as a founding character can be found across these games, whether it be as bahamut_(cygames) or making something else up (世界のバハムート??); the second is to use a concept that has some currency in Japanese circles, the 'star system'. We use this for Tezuka Osamu for a single character right now, but I see Pixiv specifically invoking it in relation to Cygames, so we could feasibly go with cygames'_star_system, and in turn for the charlist, list_of_characters_in_cygames'_star_system.
Some kind of list restricted to the characters with 'internal' crossovers would work mostly fine with probably less effort? Probably still a pretty long list with effort to populate but it would solve the main reference issue.
Some kind of list restricted to the characters with 'internal' crossovers would work mostly fine with probably less effort? Probably still a pretty long list with effort to populate but it would solve the main reference issue.
i was thinking along the lines of "legacy characters" to refer to the characters that are ROB originals, which seem to be the overwhelming majority of the characters. but that doesnt technically cover all the characters. the singular exception i can think of off the top of my head being filene_(shadowverse) and her appearance in GBF
meanwhile, manaria friends im not even sure how to consider it. if im not mistaken, the animated series itself is related to ROB as far as it uses the characters from the manaria friends card deck. but then they reuse the manaria friends card deck characters repeatedly without collabing or pretense that it is from ROB. not sure if that makes any sense or if im just overthinking.
