Audio recording as a separate tag

BUR #41078 is pending approval.

mass update favgroup:43488 -> audio_recording

From this thread topic #31836 it seems people agree that audio recording and the content found under the typical recording tag are visually different enough to justify an additional tag.

Initially I considered separating audio and visual recordings into 2 new tags, but logically practically all video cameras and smartphones pick up audio anyway so I am not going with this approach. Instead I made a favgroup where audio recording is the *primary focus* of the illustration or at minimum the presence of audio recording is very obvious due to microphones / voice recorders / or boomsticks being present.

I do believe the audio recording tag should imply recording in general and falling under recording still makes sense overall, although I will add that as a separate BUR underneath for people to vote on.

BUR #41079 is pending approval.

create implication audio_recording -> recording

Noted above already why.

if the implication fails, would it make sense to rename the tags to "recording_audio" and "recording_video"?

Kaleidoscoped said:

if the implication fails, would it make sense to rename the tags to "recording_audio" and "recording_video"?

I explained why it will never make sense, your phone and home video camera pick up audio. Only time audio and video recording are mutually exclusive are like drone footage or CCTV.

That doesn't matter to us on Danbooru though, we're tagging for visual concepts. It makes complete sense to properly separate recording with your phone or a camera and doing, for example, voice actor auditions or voice recording sessions. In my opinion, recording should be deprecated and direct people to either a tag either for taking video or performing in a Studio.

WRS said:

That doesn't matter to us on Danbooru though, we're tagging for visual concepts. It makes complete sense to properly separate recording with your phone or a camera and doing, for example, voice actor auditions or voice recording sessions. In my opinion, recording should be deprecated and direct people to either a tag either for taking video or performing in a Studio.

That ignores edge cases, like people recording using a voice recorder or using their phone but the audio record function instead of video recording. I think audio recording should be all types of obvious audio recording, we already have recording studio as a tag, though not every case of that tag is recording audio, sometimes people are just chilling in the studio doing nothing or its in the background and empty.

Freshblink said:

I explained why it will never make sense, your phone and home video camera pick up audio. Only time audio and video recording are mutually exclusive are like drone footage or CCTV.

fair enough, the angle i was taking is that it's generally understood that "recording (a) video" also often includes the capturing of sound, while a separate tag for recording audio would mean simply capturing sound by itself, but that's just my personal understanding of how the tagging could be handled.

Freshblink said:

That ignores edge cases, like people recording using a voice recorder or using their phone but the audio record function instead of video recording.

I've opted to intentionally exclude "edge cases" because I don't think they should be tagged as that. My support for a new tag is specifically to separate cases of using a device to record a video (a smartphone or a camera) from being in a recording studio actively using the equipment to perform activities such as voice acting. I wouldn't care for, or want to see, smartphone app voice recording on it.

An edge case should not be the defining value of a tag, that sounds stupid. Make a separate case for that if you really want but I don't know how common smartphone voice recording is versus an actual studio. ETA: This may prompt for other separations maybe, such as having a voice acting tag instead. Though we also have asmr which is used when someone is interacting with a binaural microphone.

I'm going to retract my vote and downvote it if that's really what you're fishing for here because that would be compounding two vastly different situations into one tag.