A question

Hello. This is my first time posting on the forum, so I'll keep it brief.

Why is it acceptable to post artwork that contributes to the harassment of Nijisanji EN livers? And why are these artworks approved when, in theory, they go against the guidelines?

I'm writing this because I'm genuinely curious. I noticed that the MtF Shu Yamino gender swap that I uploaded was deleted, which I didn't mind, despite it being properly tagged and credited. However, the final straw for me was the Uzuki Kou explicit artwork I uploaded, even though I have uploaded suggestive Nijisanji art in the past. So, my question is: why is artwork that contributes to the harassment of NijiEN livers approved, but my Uzuki Kou uploads aren't? It's odd to enforce site guidelines in this way, yet allow that one shuuko artwork depicting Elira being gang raped, which the artist created with the intention of harassing her (as much as people want to jump through mental gymnastics to pretend he didn't do so)

So why is it okay? None of these artworks would have been accepted if they had been directed towards a Hololive member, given the obvious bias towards accepting that kind of artwork when it comes to Nijisanji livers.

Either way, I just hope it can be clarified for me. If those artworks can be approved, then I don't see why these ones can't: post #9676785, post #9676797, post #10197602 and post #10197619

Alright I'll bite. Obviously, this should just go in topic #7934, but I'm curious what your reasoning is.

And why are these artworks approved when, in theory, they go against the guidelines?

Which guidelines are you talking about? I could not see any in help:upload and help:upload rules.

None of these artworks would have been accepted if they had been directed towards a Hololive member

And what are you basing this on? What would leave you to believe this?

Keep in mind, approvers span various interests. Mosts will not even know who you are talking about here (I sure don't), so your assertion that them being Nijisanji EN is relevant is just wrong. Posts can and do get missed, even if they pass the quality standards. It's a human process, with thousands of posts a day. topic #7934 helps bring attention to posts that were not approved but are potentially good enough anyway.

What is being depicted is also generally irrelevant. As long as it's 2D art, anything goes really. Some extreme fetishes will have a harder time being approved, but some random vtuber drama does not automatically make their art of subpar quality, even if it's made to bait outrage.

First of all: We're not affiliated with Nijisanji in any capacity so whether the art posted goes against official guidelines is irrelevant.

Second of all: The uncolored Elira art in question (post #7210748, NSFW) was originally posted by an unrestricted user who does not need to post to the moderation queue unlike your Uzuki Kou posts which do. Whether or not they're up to the same quality standard is subjective from approver to approver, but the answer "Why does the Elira post automatically get a pass?" is "the uploader is trusted enough to post without restriction". Nothing more, nothing less. See help:users for more information on that.

Third of all: I don't have an encyclopedic knowledge of Hololive drama but if the art is good enough I'm sure people have uploaded stuff referencing it.

Putting aside the points already raised by ANON TOKYO and downtempo, how approval would depend on quality and appeal to the approver and how the art invoked was originally uploaded by a user who could go around the approval process, there's also the point of art accessibility.

Several Hololive members have already received harassment in some shape or form, such as Kiryu Coco and Akai Haato from Mainland Chinese users due to the Taiwan incident. The difference between that and the harassment Nijisanji EN members have experienced due to the managerial mess that happened in late 2023 and early 2024 due to incredibly poor communication between everyone involved, is the fact that the latter was something which occurred in English-speaking spaces. As a result, there's a lot of English-language art available on platforms which are frequented by English-language users, who are the predominant userbase of Danbooru.

There's probably plenty of art akin to that Elira art drawn with Coco and Haato instead, but that art is likely only on Chinese platforms, so even if it was at the same quality if not better than the Elira art, it would require someone to actually dig to find it as opposed to just being given anti-Niji art via the algorithm on the English-language social media platform they're already on. Cases like Mano Aloe and Zaion LanZa also show us how art accessibility impacts things another way - if there's no artists on the anti side drawing art like that, or at least popular art (or avoiding using hashtags et al to avoid its spread beyond their circles), then that art won't spread, least of which to reposting sites such as Danbooru.

The most noteworthy example of a VTuber's art being impacted by something akin to this, Kusunoki Shio (comment #2301795), still proves the point mentioned that drama isn't even considered, since neither the uploaders nor the approvers are likely aware or even care about the context the art is drawn in, just that it is good quality art.

deliriumfleur said:

Why is it acceptable to post artwork that contributes to the harassment of Nijisanji EN livers? And why are these artworks approved when, in theory, they go against the guidelines?

Are you referring to help:community rules? Those are for how users interact with each other, not for what is or isn't allowed in uploaded images. The only thing we care about is if it was made by a human and looks good.

It sucks when you take the time to tag an image that looks good to you but it fails to pass the queue, and then when you see worse images remain active it feels unfair. It feels that way because frankly the system really is a bit unfair. However I think you're seeing a pattern there were there's probably only the arbitrary whims and individual biases of whichever approvers happen to be active. I won't comment on harassment or what's acceptable, I just wanted to reply to say I hope you don't get discouraged by this. I always appreciate seeing your uploads when they cross my saved searches.