i said it once but in case you didnt hear me...
suggesting some sort of countermeasure to these spam bots.
Posted under General
Good thing Janitors can ban now, at least.
I'm thinking they'll all get deleted. No sense in letting the spammer profit from this by leaving the links.
RaisingK said: I really don't want to have to see these comments everywhere. If outright deleting the comments is no good, how about downvoting all of them at once by some arbitrarily large amount? Is that something you could do, jxh2154, or only albert?
It'd have to be albert, if it's possible. I imagine he could just mass delete them instead.
It'd also be nice if there were some sort of quick deletion option from the page listing all a user's comments.
Updated by jxh2154
Shinjidude said:
Maybe there should be an unreasonably high comment limit for all users regardless of rank, where if you post something like 60 comments a minute (which this guy is doing well more than), it automatically mutes you and flags your account for moderator action?
IMO there should be rate limits on pretty much everything. Limiting comments doesn't help when you can just spam tags or notes instead.
It might also be a good idea to require users to solve a CAPTCHA, or at least to have a valid email, when creating a new account. Otherwise you could bypass any limits by automatically creating new accounts whenever you hit the limit.
What about limiting any links in comments to internal links only? Anything else triggers a spam filter.
The only downside is that there are of course links sometimes posted in comments to places to download collections or watch videos.
Of course, people can get around the filter if they want to post an important link, it just won't be a direct link. And it would still stymie the majority of spambots. But it's kind of a last ditch measure, since it's so stringent.
As a side note, I wish people wouldnt reply to spam bots. I've got the url in a comment search to watch for new iterations but when someone quotes it I get a false alarm. I actually reflexively banned one person for it, though thankfully I realized about 2 seconds later it wasn't the spammer, and was able to unblock them.
http://danbooru.donmai.us/user/show/318742
EDIT: Shoot. I felt like I finally scored a point, but I was just a few seconds too late.
evazion said:
limits on pretty much everything
Grahf said:
What about limiting
jxh2154 said:
Definitely look into some sort of reasonable limiting, though.
Sigh. Seriously, and how about dreaming about new limits, make commenting system really working first?
I can't stress enough how harmful and hopeless current system is, which not only limits normal users (who could probably downvote such spammers straight to hell before admin's cavalry arrives if only they weren't bound by stupid voting day quota) but in fact it also equalizes every single downvote of potential emo or butthurt user with such abuse as spam. Why is that? If you downvote comment now, it will usually go under default threshold which is 0. Since then you can see only that one (or more) comments are hidden. Now, either you don't care and you don't read them all, or you click and make them visible all. This is soo wrong. If you could see every comment score, you could clearly distinguish comments which are controversial (and thus downvoted by some users) from those which are abusing the system (which would be eventually massively downvoted).
Another thing: let's say that I'm new user here and my comment was downvoted. Of course once, because with threshold 0 (almost) noone cares what is under that later. What now? Is there anything I can (or should) learn from that fact? Let me answer with wise proverb I heard once (can't remember where though): "If one saying that you're wrong, laugh straight into his face. If there is two of them, ignore them. But if there are three of them, begin thinking if this time perhaps they are right, not you"
tldr; what to do (and in before "it's how youtube works"):
1. every user should have right to vote every single comment only once, but unlimited number of votes globally
2. every downvoted (hidden) comment should be possible to unhide individually (not all of them as is now)
3. every comment score should be visible, even for those comments which are hidden because of downvoting
4. default threshold should be below zero, I say between -3 to -5, making it unchangeable would be most welcomed too (or changeable only for admins or teh choosen ones, whatever)
jxh2154 said:
What does downvoting have to do with comment spam?Hiding the spam doesn't solve the problem.
As I said, it is good temporary countermeasure before admins (or I should say albert?) could do the job. Spammer wants to fill our asses with his damn spam - the shorter he's allowed to do it the better. Hidden spam is half dangerous and half irritating. AND with spam downvoted, there is lower chance for unexpierienced users responding to it.