Danbooru

Implication Touhou characters --> Touhou

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Yeah, the only really compelling reasoning from forum #2449 is that such aliases would lead people towards being lazy about tagging copyrights, and when that's your best argument, you don't have that good of a case. I'm all for this policy being reconsidered, but given the general tendency of people to maintain the status quo, I don't have high hopes for change.

Which is a shame, because I probably forget to tag copyright around 20-40% of the time, which leads to feelings of FFFFF once I realize my mistake in the middle of Pixiv runs and have to go back over a whole load of posts I just uploaded.

Ah, well.

Well in regards to implicating copyrights, while it wouldn't be common there are instances where such a standard would cause a lot more work. For example jump back to 2007,Cocona Vatel is a character of the recently released Ar Tonelico II, so we'd implicate her tag to the Ar_Tonelico_II tag. Jump forward to now and we have Ar Tonelico III with the character Cocona Vatel years later and older. We now have to remove the implication, because the same character appears in both but appears different and we now have to go through her tag and remove the Ar_Tonelico_II tag from images of her from Ar Tonelico III.

The "being lazy" argument can have some traction with the use of additional copyrights. Images of Cloud Strife would implicate the FF7 tag, but users still would need to make sure they catch things like when he's depicted dressed up in Kingdom Hearts.

Another issue that'd crop up is the matter of franchises, such as Senjou no Valkyria (Valkyria Chronicles). Before Senjou no Valkyria 2 the only game that existed was Senjou no Valkyria, so during that time frame we'd implicate all the characters to the Senjou no Valkyria tag. Now when the sequel comes out the Senjou no Valkyria tag is converted to a franchise tag (like the Final Fantasy tag) and a new Senjou no Valkyria 1 tag is made to refer to the first game. We now have to migrate all those character implications over to the Senjou no Valkyria 1 tag.

That though doesn't resolve problems like with what would have happen with the Senjou no Valkyria tag. It also wouldn't resolve the matter with instances like with Cocona Vatel, because when the implication would be first made she only appears in Ar Tonelico 2 so we'd have implicated her to her specific game, which in turn implicates the broader franchise tag (ie Cocona Vatel -> Ar Tonelico II -> Ar Tonelico). The problem comes down the road when the character appears in a sequel (or spin-off), but has a completely new appearance. So yes, the character would be made to implicate the broader franchise tag, but that would only occur after the problem crops up, thus it does not resolve the problem that would appear.

If the idea is that we're to implicate characters to their franchise series tags from the start then the value of implicating characters plummets and such a standard would not resolve matters such as the issue involving Senjou no Valkyria (it wasn't a franchise tag until the sequel came out). The reason the value of such implications plummets is because such implications would not actually save the tagger any real amount of time. It'd be more of an illusion that they're gaining anything. For example, say Cloud Strife implicated Final_Fantasy. Now whenever a user tagged an image Cloud_Strife the Final_Fantasy tag will appear and time is supposedly saved, but the image still needs to be tagged Final_Fantasy_VII which also implicates Final_Fantasy. The tagger saves no actual time, because they'll still have to add both tags to the image manually.

Anelaid said:
I meant to only tag them to the original game they were from, such as for Cloud, only tag to FF7 instead of all games he appears in.

That really wouldn't be fair. It's kinda like tagging Touhou characters to the first game that they appeared in.

In the end it doesn't really matter because there's approximately a zero point zero percent chance that either albert or jxh will even touch a fraction of the 649*50 character -> copy implications.

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