Moriya Suwako's weapon such as in post #714958 should have its own tag. I made it rings_of_Moriya since I couldn't find any official tag at that time. What exactly should we call it? The state of tags for it right now:
An additionnal umbrella tag for all posts depicting Suwako's rings would be really convenient.
There's Moriya's_Iron_Rings from English batch of MoF, Cyber suggested Moriya's_rings, and I'm fine with whichever (just that rings_of_moriya sound more archiac).
Ring is out since that implicates jewelry. I always had to change images tagged with ring to windfire wheel or chakram, depending on the use or look of it. I never even considered or knew there was a hoop tag that could be used.
I think it's officially Moriya's Iron Rings or Ring, singular. Moriya's Rings are fine for brevity. We can always alias all alternate forms anyway.
About Mishaguji, I think most decide that snake usually covers it.
Now, since I've always thought about it, what about Kumoi Ichirin's ring? I've always assumed it was based on the ring (乾坤圈) carried by Nez Ha/Nataku, one of the Buddhist deities she's said to be based on.
While more official I don't like the "Iron" part because the rings are depicted with silver/gold colors most of time. But, as you wish.
rantuyetmai said: On an irrelevant note, Mishaguji is under-tagged.
I never knew about them until lately. To the point I even started tagging giant_snake for them (well, at least, it doesn't look like a Mishaguji on post #418837).
is post #654985 an example of mishaguji, or is that a generic snake?
Edit: I tagged everything, related to Suwako, that looked like images I've seen of Mishaguji. I tagged that I found to be Mishaguji as such, I might of made some errors. I also tagged all of Suwako's rings/hoops as well.
Just like character's traits, hoop or snake or whatever should be tagged too where it's appropriate.
Anelaid said: Is post #654985 an example of mishaguji, or is that a generic snake?
My first impression was not since that snake seem to be scaring one of the frogs, make it more like a joke about Kanako. But now I'm not sure. Thank you for your tagging effort.
I tagged them according to the series they are from, since their appearance is very different. mishaguji_(touhou) = giant white snake with red eyes mishaguji_(megami_tensei) = penisworm on a pillar mishaguji phallic god something, not from any series that I could identify.
I tagged that because Touhou is really the only source in which mishaguji is a snake. I wouldn't want to make everyone think that mishaguji is a snake when it is generally god with phallic appearance. Well, that discussion is what this thread is for.
Japanese wiki said: In Eastern Asian mythology, Mishaguji is a concept that originated from stones and trees. In some parts through out history, it became a hunting god and is said to have the shape of a snake - a snake god. Its form can be different due to the diversity of faith in many areas. Faith in Mishaguji had existed since the Jōmon period.
In Suwa area, this god takes the form of a white snake.
That's all the evidence I need. So we should have the description from the Japanese wiki as the mishaguji wiki instead of (or additionally to) those from the games (touhou/smt).
Is this accurate? If so, it could be added, especially in lieu of English details elsewhere.
But I guess being a fertility deity would be the reason why Mishaguji is depicted as a cock sometimes.
Mishaguji was a native god commonly depicted as an earthworm or a snake.
Associated with the Shaguji (御石神) stone deities, he was said to dwell underneath rocks and boulders. His name can be written as 御赤口神 (red-mouthed god), or 社宮神 (god of the shrine.)
He was a harvest god as well as a fertility deity, and it's said that offering a prayer to him can make sex a more enjoyable experience.
Once the Yamato took over Japan, Mishaguji was seen as vulgar and and became known as an evil curse god, and it became taboo to worship him. He was mostly replaced afterward by Moreya-no-Kami and Takeminakata and is now pretty much made obsolete by those two.
