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  • ? tholia bentz 71

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  • ? tomb raider 458

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  • ? lara croft 444

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  • ID: 1895963
  • Uploader: user 11314 »
  • Date: over 10 years ago
  • Approver: Not One Of Us »
  • Size: 842 KB .jpg (848x1200) »
  • Source: deviantart.com/tholiaart/art/Lara-Croft-And-The-Temple-Of-Osiris-499267308 »
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  • Score: 2
  • Favorites: 10
  • Status: Deleted

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Unapproved in three days after returning to moderation queue (over 7 years ago)
lara croft (tomb raider) drawn by tholia_bentz
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    Nozek
    over 7 years ago
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    I'm adding my three cents. Shouldn't this image be considered western style rather than anime style? Lara Croft is from England, painter from France, does mostly non-anime, western style. That's not the problem however. The problem is: this particular artwork cannot be mistaken for manga but can be easily mistaken for western comics. Am I wrong?

    According to Danbooru official uploading guidelines:
    what is wanted: "High-quality Japanese anime-style art. For non-Japanese artists, make sure that the artwork is easily mistaken for that of a Japanese artist."
    what isn't: "Non-Japanese Animation (anime) or Comic related or style art."

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    iori98
    over 7 years ago
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    Nozek said:

    I'm adding my three cents. Shouldn't this image be considered western style rather than anime style? Lara Croft is from England, painter from France, does mostly non-anime, western style. That's not the problem however. The problem is: this particular artwork cannot be mistaken for manga but can be easily mistaken for western comics. Am I wrong?

    According to Danbooru official uploading guidelines:
    what is wanted: "High-quality Japanese anime-style art. For non-Japanese artists, make sure that the artwork is easily mistaken for that of a Japanese artist."
    what isn't: "Non-Japanese Animation (anime) or Comic related or style art."

    I feel like we've had this discussion before. I see nothing wrong with the image but I'll let a mod decide, also we really need to update the rules it's time.

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    user 525419
    over 7 years ago
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    Western-styled images need to meet higher quality standards which I don't see given here.

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    user 11314
    over 7 years ago
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    Nozek said:

    I'm adding my three cents. Shouldn't this image be considered western style rather than anime style? Lara Croft is from England, painter from France, does mostly non-anime, western style. That's not the problem however. The problem is: this particular artwork cannot be mistaken for manga but can be easily mistaken for western comics. Am I wrong?

    According to Danbooru official uploading guidelines:
    what is wanted: "High-quality Japanese anime-style art. For non-Japanese artists, make sure that the artwork is easily mistaken for that of a Japanese artist."
    what isn't: "Non-Japanese Animation (anime) or Comic related or style art."

    @Nozek
    We have had plenty of threads on this.
    My 2cents: "Western" is not a thing you should be looking for.
    Be on the look out for actually BAD art (which this is not). Flag that.

    No artist should get a pass just because they were born in the "right" country.
    No artwork should get flagged because it was painted in the "wrong" country/art style.

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    Nozek
    over 7 years ago
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    We have had plenty of threads on this.
    My 2cents: "Western" is not a thing you should be looking for.
    Be on the look out for actually BAD art (which this is not). Flag that.
    No artist should get a pass just because they were born in the "right" country.

    IMO every artist from every country has freedom to draw whatever style they choose but danbooru is for anime-style artworks. There are other websites for western comic. We should stick to the rules, guidelines and tradition. Otherwise, there's going to be a terrible mess. Most of us don't want that, am I wrong?

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    user 525419
    over 7 years ago
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    Nozek said:

    Most of us don't want that, am I wrong?

    Yes.
    See here:

    The following may be uploaded, but will be put to a higher level of artistic and qualitative scrutiny than normal, and (if applicable) you must tag them with the corresponding tag. Please do not upload more than 20 a day of these works:

    Western: Drawings of characters from non-Japanese comics, games, and other properties.

    Like I said, imo this image doesn't fall under the stricter scrutiny.

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    user 11314
    over 7 years ago
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    Nozek said:

    IMO every artist from every country has freedom to draw whatever style they choose but danbooru is for anime-style artworks. There are other websites for western comic. We should stick to the rules, guidelines and tradition. Otherwise, there's going to be a terrible mess. Most of us don't want that, am I wrong?

    @Nozek
    I don't know of any other booru for non-nint/game art.

    And traditionally, we have allowed everything, as long as it's good.

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    iori98
    over 7 years ago
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    Nozek said:

    IMO every artist from every country has freedom to draw whatever style they choose but danbooru is for anime-style artworks. There are other websites for western comic. We should stick to the rules, guidelines and tradition. Otherwise, there's going to be a terrible mess. Most of us don't want that, am I wrong?

    What mess? Please tell me what could possibly go wrong with having western art. This doomsday mindset is annoying and brings nothing to the discussion. We have plenty of high quality western art and nothing happen no doom no gloom.

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    Garrus
    over 7 years ago
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    If it's high quality, I say let it on the site, Western or Eastern. If it isn't, give it the boot. Simple as that.

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    nonamethanks
    over 7 years ago
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    Kikimaru said:

    @Nozek
    I don't know of any other booru for non-nint/game art.

    And traditionally, we have allowed everything, as long as it's good.

    That's not true. See: the shitstorm whenever post #2430440 gets reapproved, and albert's opinions on it.

    Danbooru is a "good eastern-style art" database, not a "good art" database, otherwise we'd have sections for fine art or Mike Mignola's illustrations.

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    user 11314
    over 7 years ago
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    nonamethanks said:

    That's not true. See: the shitstorm whenever post #2430440 gets reapproved, and albert's opinions on it.

    Danbooru is a "good eastern-style art" database, not a "good art" database, otherwise we'd have sections for fine art or Mike Mignola's illustrations.

    @nonamethanks
    albert's opinions:
    forum #118000 / forum #118145 / forum #121092

    That Doom image. Not objectionable. The real problem isn't Western art. It's low quality art in general. That's what we should be focusing on.

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    nonamethanks
    over 7 years ago
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    Kikimaru said:

    @nonamethanks
    albert's opinions:
    forum #118000 / forum #118145 / forum #121092

    And

    Don't admonish people for flagging western art. It's borderline content and therefore some people will find it objectionable. Janitors should just use their own judgement whether it should exist on the site or not.
    If you consider a work too far outside the curve to belong on the site, go ahead and flag it.
    I think the current uploading rules are adequate since there's no specific ban on non-Japanese art. But I will modify it to clarify that western-styled art is accepted but subject to more scrutiny.

    The majority of danbooru's userbase comes here for eastern-inspired art. The same is true for the majority of approvers. It doesn't make much sense to chastize people because they don't approve western art on danbooru, especially given how the top of the queue states "As a general rule, you should only approve of posts that you personally like."

    "Subject to more scrutiny" pretty much means "anything too western won't be approved", because that's the nature and taste of the site's approvers.

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    NWSiaCB
    over 7 years ago
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    Also, it's not even that good even if it was completely on-topic. The neck is too large, the pose is really stiff, the shading's kind of flat, and it's not particularly detailed (I'm not really counting random flecks of brown).

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    Darkagma
    over 7 years ago
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    The less exceptions, the better for the future.

    delet this

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    user 11314
    over 7 years ago
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    nonamethanks said:

    And

    The majority of danbooru's userbase comes here for eastern-inspired art. The same is true for the majority of approvers. It doesn't make much sense to chastize people because they don't approve western art on danbooru, especially given how the top of the queue states "As a general rule, you should only approve of posts that you personally like."

    "Subject to more scrutiny" pretty much means "anything too western won't be approved", because that's the nature and taste of the site's approvers.

    NWSiaCB said:

    Also, it's not even that good even if it was completely on-topic. The neck is too large, the pose is really stiff, the shading's kind of flat, and it's not particularly detailed (I'm not really counting random flecks of brown).

    I think you might be misunderstanding me; I'm not chastising the Flagger for this particular image; just the general notion of "all Western artists/copyrights don't belong on Danbooru".

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    OOZ662
    over 7 years ago
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    We have a decent amount of non-anime styled art from western artists. They do tend to be striking in quality, though. This isn't bad, but eh.

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