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    Ichi Zeroth
    about 10 years ago
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    So a love machine that keeps on giving... err taking... err willing to accept any and all "donations" since day one got it.

    Be curious if more "good" monsters appear. So from what I've gathered most all monster girls don't produce humans... and so at some point, the number of human men will run dry?

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    cd young
    about 10 years ago
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    Ichi_Zeroth said:

    So a love machine that keeps on giving... err taking... err willing to accept any and all "donations" since day one got it.

    Be curious if more "good" monsters appear. So from what I've gathered most all monster girls don't produce humans... and so at some point, the number of human men will run dry?

    There are only a few monster girl tribes that absorb human women into their ranks, werewolves, parasite slimes, vampires and zombies are about the only ones.

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    Ichi Zeroth
    about 10 years ago
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    cd_young said:

    There are only a few monster girl tribes that absorb human women into their ranks, werewolves, parasite slimes, vampires and zombies are about the only ones.

    Do those girls produce monster girls or humans?

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    NWSiaCB
    about 10 years ago
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    Ichi_Zeroth said:

    Do those girls produce monster girls or humans?

    In those cases, "absorb" means "turn into another monstergirl just like them". Hence, monster girls. And actually, there are several more, including the whole "succubus" class/family, as well as ropers, parasitic slimes, witches, black bishops, dopplegangers, etc. Types like the tentacle girl also turn human women into other types, like basic succubi through their sexual advances on women.

    And yes, the overarching story of this is that humanity is facing an existential crisis, because monster girls abduct men, keep them from mating with humans, and always produce more monstergirls (always female) as offspring. Additionally, several types of monstergirls (most aggressively, the succubi,) take out what female heroes exist with "corruption" into succubi, themselves. It's basically like a zombie apocalypse concept, but with more sex.

    The point that Kenkou Cross is clumsily trying to make, however, is that the rapist brainwashers are "actually the good guys," and that it's "the old gods" (read: The Catholic Church) that are evil for saying having incestual sex in the middle of the street all day everyday is bad. Hence, the Succubus Queen is the "good guy" for trying to conquer the world and brainwash everyone into living life and thinking like she does.

    Also, you will notice that, in spite of the "powerful mistress" vibes that the high-level succubi are supposed to give off, the way in which "love" is expressed by Kenkou pretty much invariably comes in two forms:
    1. Violent rape or
    2. "Service" or "devotion" (which are constantly referred to as "ideal" traits in a woman,) where characters that were once capable of thinking for themselves have brain.exe suffer a fatal exception error: Interrupted by cock.
    Basically, ALL relationships in Kenou's mind are sub/dom relationships, it's just a question of which one's the sub...

    Updated by NWSiaCB about 10 years ago

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    astarte952
    about 10 years ago
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    Wow! 72 angel woman such a man surpress even a king incubus kepheri harem. The troll profile say something about that in the near time monstergirls are able to bear male incubi but unclear how this will be work. New profile old problem when all woman are gone and no more man are born this foolish world is finish. Well hope dies at least and maybe not all monsters are so stupid and see far enough to avoid to dieout.

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    Delic-k-ious
    about 10 years ago
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    NWSiaCB said:
    characters that were once capable of thinking for themselves have brain.exe suffer a fatal exception error: Interrupted by cock.

    This is an unusually accurate summary of alot of the monster girls.

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    Kerfirou
    about 10 years ago
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    Wow, so Kenkou started to dwelve into Arabian/Muslim culture, then?

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    Casandraelf
    about 10 years ago
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    @NWSiaCB why do i have the feeling that kenkou never considered that, if the monster girls were smart, they wouldn't try to turn every single human into monster girls/incubi and instead would leave a large enough and diverse enough human population for the sake of having more humans to turn?

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    MMaestro
    about 10 years ago
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    Casandraelf said:

    @NWSiaCB why do i have the feeling that kenkou never considered that, if the monster girls were smart, they wouldn't try to turn every single human into monster girls/incubi and instead would leave a large enough and diverse enough human population for the sake of having more humans to turn?

    Because you still end up with the same situation, albeit on a macro scale. Monster girls offspring ALWAYS results in more monster girls. Once that is taken into consideration, its a basic math problem.

    X = number of unmarried monster girls + monster girl birth rate (+ number of "absorbed" human females)
    Y = number of human males
    Assuming no polygamy: If X > Y, GAME OVER.

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    CinderBH
    about 10 years ago
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    Kerfirou said:

    Wow, so Kenkou started to dwelve into Arabian/Muslim culture, then?

    Yeah! I rarely see creators going there because of the vocal, easily offended category of Muslims, but honestly if you like a culture you should homage it. You can't let your creativity be controlled by people for whom "offended" is the default.

    Updated by CinderBH about 10 years ago

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    astarte952
    about 10 years ago
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    One good question is when humans say to monstergirls that they love/like them and gave them what monstergirls want and much more. Still kidnaping, rape and transform or enjoy the time with the ones who love her?

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    Ichi Zeroth
    about 10 years ago
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    NWSiaCB said:
    And yes, the overarching story of this is that humanity is facing an existential crisis, because monster girls abduct men, keep them from mating with humans, and always produce more monstergirls (always female) as offspring. Additionally, several types of monstergirls (most aggressively, the succubi,) take out what female heroes exist with "corruption" into succubi, themselves. It's basically like a zombie apocalypse concept, but with more sex.

    The point that Kenkou Cross is clumsily trying to make, however, is that the rapist brainwashers are "actually the good guys," and that it's "the old gods" (read: The Catholic Church) that are evil for saying having incestual sex in the middle of the street all day everyday is bad. Hence, the Succubus Queen is the "good guy" for trying to conquer the world and brainwash everyone into living life and thinking like she does.

    ...

    Thanks for the long message. I got the S/M vibes but I missed the overarching theme of population growth and religion. Seems the the good v guy guys gives out the Twlight Zone vibe there. I can only wonder if a game will be made, using this art, or will it live on as a book...

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    astarte952
    about 10 years ago
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    It's hard to tell what goes really on in the succubus queen and lilims head because the lilim profile say: they want that humans and monsters life in harmoby, seek each others body and have lustful sex! That sounds very good but when all humans become incubus and monstergirls this goal can never become true.

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    astarte952
    about 10 years ago
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    any idea what is coming out next or is plane in the near time?

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    Zephyr102
    about 10 years ago
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    NWSiaCB said:

    "Stuff"

    That's a pretty solid summary of the workings of the MGE universe, but a detail I've gleaned from the books is that (allegedly) the only reason monster girl/human unions produce only monster girls is because of meddling by the Chief God(dess) of the not-Catholic Church. Both the characters portrayed as writers of the books (the unnamed encyclopedist and Saphirette the Dark Matter) show a general bias towards the side of the monster girls, though obviously Saphirette more so than the encylopedist. Either way, they could be construed as unreliable narrators, but because KC is writing a sexual fantasy fantasy setting, it could also be possible that they're right.

    I believe the lore goes that, if the Demon Lord fully defeats the Chief God, her power will be uncontested, and she'll be able to make it so monster girl/human pairings can produce incubi and monster girls. She would also remove all the sexual violence from the more aggressive monster girls and make them into generic waifus, but since the aggressive sex is part of the charm of those profiles, it will probably never come to pass.

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    MMaestro
    about 10 years ago
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    Zephyr102 said:

    That's a pretty solid summary of the workings of the MGE universe, but a detail I've gleaned from the books is that (allegedly) the only reason monster girl/human unions produce only monster girls is because of meddling by the Chief God(dess) of the not-Catholic Church. Both the characters portrayed as writers of the books (the unnamed encyclopedist and Saphirette the Dark Matter) show a general bias towards the side of the monster girls, though obviously Saphirette more so than the encylopedist. Either way, they could be construed as unreliable narrators, but because KC is writing a sexual fantasy fantasy setting, it could also be possible that they're right.

    I believe the lore goes that, if the Demon Lord fully defeats the Chief God, her power will be uncontested, and she'll be able to make it so monster girl/human pairings can produce incubi and monster girls. She would also remove all the sexual violence from the more aggressive monster girls and make them into generic waifus, but since the aggressive sex is part of the charm of those profiles, it will probably never come to pass.

    Except assuming that everything in the books is true also means that being turned into a monster girl/incubus means being magically brainwashed. (Which even some of the profiles admit)

    Ergo, ANYTHING the unnamed author and Saphirette the Dark Matter write is either true in a "join us to reach the HAPPY END!" OR nothing more than pro-Demon Lord propaganda. (We don't know whats true and whats being said simply because they're magically brainwashed)

    Hence the reason why (practically) no one likes the books.
    - If you assume everything is true, there are massive contradictions.
    - If you assume everything false, theres no point in reading/buying the books.
    - If you try to cherry pick whats true and whats false, you're can't even discuss/debate it because it becomes a personal decision.

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    Ichi Zeroth
    almost 10 years ago
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    MMaestro said:

    ...

    Hence the reason why (practically) no one likes the books.
    - If you assume everything is true, there are massive contradictions.
    - If you assume everything false, theres no point in reading/buying the books.
    - If you try to cherry pick whats true and whats false, you're can't even discuss/debate it because it becomes a personal decision.

    So it's like the bible?

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    JsTuCkEy
    over 7 years ago
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    astarte952 said:

    Wow! 72 angel woman such a man surpress even a king incubus kepheri harem.

    Fun fact: the original houris are the "72 virgins" promised to the devout in the Islamic afterlife. So when a suicide bomber blows himself up, this is what he's looking forward to. Let that sink in for a second.

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    Branman65
    almost 3 years ago
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    JsTuCkEy said:

    Fun fact: the original houris are the "72 virgins" promised to the devout in the Islamic afterlife. So when a suicide bomber blows himself up, this is what he's looking forward to. Let that sink in for a second.

    Well usually (at least in Islamic dogma) it’s only a few houri, typically one or two, allegedly only one guy got 72 of them. But yeah I see your point

    CinderBH said:

    Yeah! I rarely see creators going there because of the vocal, easily offended category of Muslims, but honestly if you like a culture you should homage it. You can't let your creativity be controlled by people for whom "offended" is the default.

    aren’t the more hardcore Islamic types not online enough to really get into stuff like MGE, especially the ones that have the will to do terrorism?

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    cd young
    almost 3 years ago
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    NWSiaCB said:

    The point that Kenkou Cross is clumsily trying to make, however, is that the rapist brainwashers are "actually the good guys," and that it's "the old gods" (read: The Catholic Church) that are evil for saying having incestual sex in the middle of the street all day everyday is bad. Hence, the Succubus Queen is the "good guy" for trying to conquer the world and brainwash everyone into living life and thinking like she does.

    Also, you will notice that, in spite of the "powerful mistress" vibes that the high-level succubi are supposed to give off, the way in which "love" is expressed by Kenkou pretty much invariably comes in two forms:
    1. Violent rape or
    2. "Service" or "devotion" (which are constantly referred to as "ideal" traits in a woman,) where characters that were once capable of thinking for themselves have brain.exe suffer a fatal exception error: Interrupted by cock.
    Basically, ALL relationships in Kenou's mind are sub/dom relationships, it's just a question of which one's the sub...

    Lets also not forget within this idiotic lore that a Hero, someone empowered by the gods themselves, sided with the Succubus Queen and nearly killed the new Chief God, who's also seeing several rebel gods, (notably the god of the sea and the goddess of love) side with the demons because one's tired to doing her job and the other's a shipper who shlicks to anything. Kenou's justification for the reason the chief god is the bad guy is, if the world reverts than all the monster girls become normal monsters and will eat all the men, while ignoring the fact his world is reaching a singularity where there will be too many monster girls, no women and not enough men to keep any population going,

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    JsTuCkEy
    almost 3 years ago
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    cd_young said:

    Lets also not forget within this idiotic lore that a Hero, sided with the Succubus Queen and nearly killed the new Chief God, who's also seeing several rebel gods, (notably the god of the sea and the goddess of love) Kenou's justification for the reason the chief god is the bad guy is, if the world reverts than all the monster girls become normal monsters and will eat all the men, while ignoring the fact his world is reaching a singularity where there will be too many monster girls, no women and not enough men to keep any population going,

    That won't happen because the Demon Lord winning will allow monster girls to give birth to human sons, meaning they won't need to steal men from human lands to reproduce.

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    cd young
    almost 3 years ago
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    JsTuCkEy said:

    That won't happen because the Demon Lord winning will allow monster girls to give birth to human sons, meaning they won't need to steal men from human lands to reproduce.

    No the ritual, which the Succubus queen screwed up, was supposed to create monster girls and Incubus. which would still cause humanity to go extinct since there would just create demons.

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    Branman65
    almost 3 years ago
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    CinderBH said:

    Yeah! I rarely see creators going there because of the vocal, easily offended category of Muslims, but honestly if you like a culture you should homage it. You can't let your creativity be controlled by people for whom "offended" is the default.

    Also this is pretty much a houri just like in Islam (switch out eros for Allah), it’s not like mge angels, which are altered a lot to fit the plot.

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    cd young
    almost 3 years ago
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    Branman65 said:

    Also this is pretty much a houri just like in Islam (switch out eros for Allah), it’s not like mge angels, which are altered a lot to fit the plot.

    Seeing how every thing that isn't a human or a god are technically considered "monster girls" and live off Monmusu mana means that even the Chief God's forces are actually the Succubus Queens forces since even angels are a corrupting force.

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