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  • ? tomonori-kou 20

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  • ? kantai collection 513k

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  • ? pola (kancolle) 2.4k
  • ? zara (kancolle) 1.3k

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  • ? 2girls 1.2M
  • ? alcohol 40k
  • ? angry 49k
  • ? arm up 240k
  • ? ascot 159k
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  • ? kneeling 131k
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  • ID: 2373467
  • Uploader: user 460797 »
  • Date: about 9 years ago
  • Size: 1.04 MB .jpg (1748x1228) »
  • Source: seiga.nicovideo.jp/seiga/im5816027 »
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  • Score: 12
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pola and zara (kantai collection) drawn by tomonori-kou

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  • 提督も飲みます~?

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    user 460797
    about 9 years ago
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    I'm a bit curious about Pola:
    Why is she depicted with that much alcohol? I thought that they should represent a bit the stereotypes of the countries a bit, but Italans aren't known that they are "the greatest drinker in Europe"^^.

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    Vaggos
    about 9 years ago
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    Provence said:

    I'm a bit curious about Pola:
    Why is she depicted with that much alcohol? I thought that they should represent a bit the stereotypes of the countries a bit, but Italans aren't known that they are "the greatest drinker in Europe"^^.

    If you are talking about the fan art, the fan art make her drunk cos she is drunk in the game, but if you are talking about the game, the reason is because the crew of the ship was completely drunk before it got sunk and did sore really damp stuff. I suggest you read the story its pretty funny.

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    Blue Stuff
    about 9 years ago
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    Provence said:

    I'm a bit curious about Pola:
    Why is she depicted with that much alcohol? I thought that they should represent a bit the stereotypes of the countries a bit, but Italans aren't known that they are "the greatest drinker in Europe"^^.

    It's actually a reference to how she was sunk: her crew thought that she was sinking, so they drank enough wine to get absolutely hammered and jumped into the Mediterranean. When they realized she wasn't sinking, they climbed back on and drank some more. There's a post that describes it in greater detail somewhere, I'll link it when I find it.

    Ah, found it. It's in the comments for post #2348788.

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    user 460797
    about 9 years ago
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    Blue_Stuff said:

    It's actually a reference to how she was sunk: her crew thought that she was sinking, so they drank enough wine to get absolutely hammered and jumped into the Mediterranean. When they realized she wasn't sinking, they climbed back on and drank some more. There's a post that describes it in greater detail somewhere, I'll link it when I find it.

    Ah, found it. It's in the comments for post #2348788.

    Sounds like slapstick^^.
    Well, thanks for the answers :3.

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    Dogwalker
    about 9 years ago
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    Provence said:

    Sounds like slapstick^^.
    Well, thanks for the answers :3.

    It's actually a little different.
    Pola's crew had been put together at the last minute. It was in large part composed of newbie recruits (400 of 850 total), and even most senior officers had just been appointed (IE the chief medical officer had been appointed only four days before leaving the port), so, there had been not enough time to develop much trust between officiers and seamen. When the torpedo struck the ship, many newbie seamen jumped in the sea thinking it was doomed, then the more expert ones picked them up again, and gave them alchoolics to prevent them from freezing (they were not of much use anyway).
    The more expert crewmen really did a good work in repairing the damages. At the time the Zara and Fiume reached the Pola, the electrical plant had been restored, the ship was able to slew the turrets (but not to use them, since the magazines had been flooded), and the boilers were warming, but it was too late.

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    Blue Stuff
    about 9 years ago
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    Dogwalker said:

    It's actually a little different.
    Pola's crew had been put together at the last minute. It was in large part composed of newbie recruits (400 of 850 total), and even most senior officers had just been appointed (IE the chief medical officer had been appointed only four days before leaving the port), so, there had been not enough time to develop much trust between officiers and seamen. When the torpedo struck the ship, many newbie seamen jumped in the sea thinking it was doomed, then the more expert ones picked them up again, and gave them alchoolics to prevent them from freezing (they were not of much use anyway).
    The more expert crewmen really did a good work in repairing the damages. At the time the Zara and Fiume reached the Pola, the electrical plant had been restored, the ship was able to slew the turrets (but not to use them, since the magazines had been flooded), and the boilers were warming, but it was too late.

    Oh, is that how it was? I only knew about the situation from what I've read other people say, I don't know about that.

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    NNescio
    about 9 years ago
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    Blue_Stuff said:

    Oh, is that how it was? I only knew about the situation from what I've read other people say, I don't know about that.

    That doesn't change, of course, the fact that the British found Pola's crew in a complete state of disarray with drunk crewmen and naked bodies lying on top of each other, plus wine bottles all over the place, when they boarded her. That's all you need to establish Pola's character in Kancolle.

    Her crew also got off comparatively luckier than Zara's and the other cruisers and destroyers who came to her rescue. Zara's crew, in particular, was valorous until the end, and maintained discipline even in the face of imminent death as she was torn apart by guns from up to three battleships.

    In a way, it was Pola's fault for dooming CruDiv 1. Sure, the torp hit was lucky, Iachino didn't give clear orders (despite later developing misgivings over towing Pola), and Cattaneo fucked up (sorry, Zara) by not deploying his DDs forward, but it was Pola's SoS which drew them all there all huddled up in a nice formation for the British BBs to rip apart.

    Pola's crew was comparatively untrained, yes, but that just supports Kancolle's characterization of her even more.

    (Not to mention that didn't absolve the Willie D. either).

    Updated by NNescio about 9 years ago

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    Dogwalker
    about 9 years ago
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    NNescio said:

    That doesn't change, of course, the fact that the British found Pola's crew in a complete state of disarray with drunk crewmen and naked bodies lying on top of each other,

    They found many seamen evidently drunken and without the uniforms (since keeping it would have worsened the freezing), that's what's written in the reports. "naked bodies lying on top of each other", and other amenities, are the usual exaggerations that everyone wants to add when a story is passed from mouth to mouth.

    It's true that the Zara's crew had been valorous until the end, and, strange to say, even effective. At the beginning of the action, the Warspite and the Valiant hit the Fiume, while the Barham hit the Zara. The first salvo of the Barham destroyed the A and B main Turrets of the Zara, the two 100/47 dual purpose turrets of the left side, and cut off the electricity, so rendering useless the turrets X ad Y. The only usable weapon left was the dual aft 37/54 AA autocannon, and that was used, shutting off the Barham's searchlights. The Barham, blinded, turned 90° and stopped the action. The second salvo on the Zara was fired by the Valiant, that had to change it's target.

    Updated by Dogwalker about 9 years ago

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