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  • ? piece 888 10

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  • ? goddess of victory: nikke 39k

Characters

  • ? cinderella (nikke) 2.1k
  • ? ↳ cinderella (beautiful me) (nikke) 202
  • ? grave (nikke) 351
  • ? ↳ grave (beautiful you) (nikke) 105

General

  • ? 2girls 1.3M
  • ? abs 125k
  • ? bikini 646k
  • ? black bikini 150k
  • ? black bow 206k
  • ? black choker 247k
  • ? black jacket 359k
  • ? black pants 233k
  • ? blonde hair 2.0M
  • ? blue eyes 2.3M
  • ? bow 1.6M
  • ? breasts 4.6M
  • ? cellphone 127k
  • ? cellphone charm 1.7k
  • ? charm (object) 18k
  • ? choker 573k
  • ? cleavage 1.3M
  • ? closed mouth 1.8M
  • ? collar 259k
  • ? collarbone 1.0M
  • ? covered navel 184k
  • ? cowboy shot 788k
  • ? dress 1.8M
  • ? eyepatch 98k
  • ? eyewear hang 2.4k
  • ? glasses 474k
  • ? grey dress 29k
  • ? hair between eyes 1.6M
  • ? hair bow 704k
  • ? hair over one eye 341k
  • ? hand on another's waist 8.5k
  • ? heart 831k
  • ? heart necklace 9.4k
  • ? highleg 155k
  • ? highleg bikini 21k
  • ? holding 2.0M
  • ? holding phone 94k
  • ? jacket 1.4M
  • ? jacket on shoulders 31k
  • ? jewelry 1.5M
  • ? large breasts 2.1M
  • ? long hair 5.8M
  • ? long sleeves 2.2M
  • ? looking at viewer 4.6M
  • ? mother and child 28k
  • ? mother and daughter 20k
  • ? multiple girls 2.0M
  • ? necklace 348k
  • ? off shoulder 320k
  • ? official alternate costume 512k
  • ? official alternate hairstyle 79k
  • ? open clothes 703k
  • ? open jacket 352k
  • ? pants 647k
  • ? parent and child 40k
  • ? phone 140k
  • ? pinstripe jacket 3.5k
  • ? pinstripe pants 1.5k
  • ? pinstripe pattern 16k
  • ? red eyes 1.7M
  • ? ribbed dress 4.6k
  • ? scar 157k
  • ? scar on stomach 4.0k
  • ? sidelocks 867k
  • ? simple background 2.6M
  • ? single bare shoulder 31k
  • ? smartphone 110k
  • ? standing 1.2M
  • ? stomach 384k
  • ? strapless 221k
  • ? strapless dress 71k
  • ? sunglasses 133k
  • ? swimsuit 847k
  • ? unworn eyewear 20k
  • ? very long hair 1.3M
  • ? white background 2.2M
  • ? white hair 968k

Meta

  • ? commentary request 5.9M
  • ? highres 7.5M
  • ? translation request 777k

Information

  • ID: 9176452
  • Uploader: VR-Man »
  • Date: about 1 year ago
  • Size: 370 KB .jpg (1592x2048) »
  • Source: x.com/piece_888/status/1913593657804177575 »
  • Rating: Sensitive
  • Score: 39
  • Favorites: 37
  • Status: Active

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cinderella and grave (goddess of victory: nikke) drawn by piece_888

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    Sigfried666
    about 1 year ago
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    Do the relationship between Grave and Cinderella really warrant the Mother and Daughter tag?

    It's not like I can't see the reasoning, but it feels like a stretch.

    Like, is Syuen mother to the Matis squad members, too?

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    VR-Man
    about 1 year ago
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    Sigfried666 said:

    Do the relationship between Grave and Cinderella really warrant the Mother and Daughter tag?

    No, I don't think it should. (I'm not the one who added the tag)

    Updated by VR-Man 2 days ago

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    Iknowme
    9 months ago
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    Sigfried666 said:

    Do the relationship between Grave and Cinderella really warrant the Mother and Daughter tag?

    It's not like I can't see the reasoning, but it feels like a stretch.

    Like, is Syuen mother to the Matis squad members, too?

    The writer for their story said that it was "a story about a mother going the extra mile for her daughter even if it ruins herself", and Grave/Abe has explicitly referred to herself as Cinderella's mother (multiple times) and called Cinderella her own child. It's neither based on "reasoning" nor a "stretch"; that is just what it is in the game.

    So, yes, since the premise of their story is explicitly and literally build upon being a mother/daughter relation, the tag is warranted.

    Updated by Iknowme 9 months ago

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    Sigfried666
    9 months ago
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    Iknowme said:
    So, yes, since the premise of their story is explicitly and literally build upon being a mother/daughter relation, the tag is warranted.

    Then re-add it.
    It still feels off, to me. But people have been tagging the children versions of Azur Lane units with "mother and daughter" when they are with their adult counterparts.
    Also using it when little Leonardo da Vinci is appearing with big Leonardo da Vinci in FGO.

    I see no problem with tagging Grave and Cinderella as "mother and daughter".
    But if we consider creator-creation a family relationship, will this affect other pairings or are we gonna go with a case-by-case approach?

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    pihip
    2 days ago
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    About the "mother and daughter" debate, the problem is that some people take things too literally.

    Scientists and inventors call their masterpieces their "children" all the time in fiction, it's a sign of affection but it obviously does not mean that the creation is the creator's literal child (although there are exceptions, like with everything).

    To draw a comparison - James Marcus called his mutant leeches his "children". That doesn't mean he was literally their father.

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    Incineration
    2 days ago
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    pihip said in comment #2599095:

    About the "mother and daughter" debate, the problem is that some people take things too literally.

    Scientists and inventors call their masterpieces their "children" all the time in fiction, it's a sign of affection but it obviously does not mean that the creation is the creator's literal child (although there are exceptions, like with everything).

    To draw a comparison - James Marcus called his mutant leeches his "children". That doesn't mean he was literally their father.

    You're completely missing the point here. Those examples are creatures, not people. There's plenty of pet owners calling their pets their children, this is the same principle.
    If the creation is a person and their creator calls them their child then they are parent and child, end of story. This is no different from adoptive parents with their children, there's just the extra step of making the child first.

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