Upload Feedback Thread - post here if your uploads keep getting deleted

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0F5654E9AC9AB9AAD5B9 said:

What's the issue with post #5047783 ? It was initially approved, then instantly flagged following deletion after 3 days.
It was flagged for quality reasons, but I can't figure out what's wrong. I'd be happy to get some feedback about this.

Contrary to popular belief, approvers do not coordinate. We're all individuals and each one of us can only approve an image once. If only one approver likes your image, it can get approved but a flag will end it. That's what happened here.

A lot of approvers, myself included, dislike nsfw 3d animations. You'd have to ask for individual opinions for why, though. It also doesn't help that your source is just a link to the video file rather than a link to where it's hosted, like pixiv or similar.

Sproq981 said:

What was wrong with post #5049774? It was the md5 mismatch thing, right? If so, sorry.

That doesn't help but no. It's mostly the weird neck slope and flat and bulbous face and head.

Make sure you're using the upload bookmark and/or the batch uploader to prevent that md5 mismatch.

Veradux said:

Contrary to popular belief, approvers do not coordinate. We're all individuals and each one of us can only approve an image once. If only one approver likes your image, it can get approved but a flag will end it. That's what happened here.

A lot of approvers, myself included, dislike nsfw 3d animations. You'd have to ask for individual opinions for why, though. It also doesn't help that your source is just a link to the video file rather than a link to where it's hosted, like pixiv or similar.

I find it very underhanded to flag it anonymously for "quality reasons" which objectively isn't true. Approvers should judge whether the reason given for the flag applies and act accordingly. Is it true that each approver can approve a post only once? What if I would have people flag something again and again until no approves are left to approve it?

@Veradux: There is a shorter censored version on pixiv and I took the link directly from its comment. Is it allowed to edit the source and comment to pixiv while keeping the full uncensored video? Or is there a better way to handle this situation?

0F5654E9AC9AB9AAD5B9 said:

I find it very underhanded to flag it anonymously for "quality reasons" which objectively isn't true. Approvers should judge whether the reason given for the flag applies and act accordingly. Is it true that each approver can approve a post only once? What if I would have people flag something again and again until no approves are left to approve it?

@Veradux: There is a shorter censored version on pixiv and I took the link directly from its comment. Is it allowed to edit the source and comment to pixiv while keeping the full uncensored video? Or is there a better way to handle this situation?

All flags are anonymous. Only Mods and Admins can see who flagged something.
In addition, a poorly kept secret is that most approvers don't look at the flag or appeal reasons. When 90% of flags are "quality check" and 90% of appeals are either blank or irrelevant, they kinda turn into white noise.

And, yes, an approver can only approver an image once. They also cannot approve their own uploads. This is to prevent one person enabling a bad image. And, yes, that does in turn mean you could flag something into oblivion.

However, if we found out you were coordinating flags you would be banned. In addition, you would need over a dozen people to coordinate this, meaning it would take over a month to accomplish. Further, virtually no images on the site have been flagged more than half a dozen times. If an image gets flagged that many times, the admins will obviously take note of it. And the admins can lock an image to be permanently deleted or approved.

The system in place is abusable in theory only.

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As for the source thing, you could do that. Editing a source after you post is entirely allowed.

Checking it, what you can do is use the bookmarklet or batch uploader on the pixiv page so that it auto-grabs the pixiv commentary and formats it for Danbooru. From there, just copy/paste it into a regular upload page with the same source and upload the uncensored file manually with that commentary and source. We do this all the time.

Veradux said:

All flags are anonymous. Only Mods and Admins can see who flagged something.
In addition, a poorly kept secret is that most approvers don't look at the flag or appeal reasons. When 90% of flags are "quality check" and 90% of appeals are either blank or irrelevant, they kinda turn into white noise.

And, yes, an approver can only approver an image once. They also cannot approve their own uploads. This is to prevent one person enabling a bad image. And, yes, that does in turn mean you could flag something into oblivion.

However, if we found out you were coordinating flags you would be banned. In addition, you would need over a dozen people to coordinate this, meaning it would take over a month to accomplish. Further, virtually no images on the site have been flagged more than half a dozen times. If an image gets flagged that many times, the admins will obviously take note of it. And the admins can lock an image to be permanently deleted or approved.

The system in place is abusable in theory only.

Thank you for the insight. Now I can see why people claim that things aren't objective and Danbooru hates certain content. If those one or two approvers usually handling your niche are on vacation, uploads will be deleted, no matter how high the quality might be. There is just no way to implement a perfectly objective system and we have to make the best out of what we have.

I gave up on getting a good approval rate, because the approvers aren't deterministic enough for me to predict. In hindsight I see that some of my uploads are not good enough, but there are a lot of post that would deserve to be active. If the banner says it was deleted and some approvers thought it to be of "poor quality", I agree, but if it just states that no one liked it enough, it fell through the system. This becomes especially obvious with post that got a lot of up-votes before they were deleted.

Are deleted post accessible for eternity or do they get purged at some point?

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I corrected the source and commentary. I guess I should wait 30 days before appealing the post?

0F5654E9AC9AB9AAD5B9 said:

Are deleted post accessible for eternity or do they get purged at some point?

Only certain rule-breaking content and broken images get purged. Everything else stays, marked as deleted. See status:deleted order:id for the oldest deleted posts.

I guess I should wait 30 days before appealing the post?

You can appeal whenever, but it will be shown to more approvers if you wait 30 days first.

So I uploaded post #5050732 4 days ago, and 4 minutes later an user with unrestricted uploads uploaded post #5050734 with pretty much the same tags and even same resolution, the only difference being the site he took it from; and thus my upload got deleted three days later.

If my upload gets approved after saying something here would be great, but on the other hand I believe something must be done to prevent this from happening in future.

klorpa said:

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These posts are all larger versions and/or revisions of previously uploaded posts (some being approved as well, but others not).

All but two are now flagged. It wasn't me but a lot of them are definitely not good.

Don't forget to use the revision tag when relevant and to make sure what you're uploading meets quality expectations. Just because an unres uploaded it and it fell into obscurity doesn't mean a revision is certain to be approved. Doubly so if the image is very old.

niner0phant said:

I am confused as to why a majority of my uploads relating to the artist happa freee were deleted, like post #5051144

They're simply not that good. Frequent anatomy errors, weird proportions, and whenever something bends or is partially covered like an elbow or knee it seems to not exist behind whatever is covering it.

knsrgn said:

So I uploaded post #5050732 4 days ago, and 4 minutes later an user with unrestricted uploads uploaded post #5050734 with pretty much the same tags and even same resolution, the only difference being the site he took it from; and thus my upload got deleted three days later.

If my upload gets approved after saying something here would be great, but on the other hand I believe something must be done to prevent this from happening in future.

This is called "1upping". Nowadays it's pretty uncommon and almost never done maliciously. The real issue is that such things flood the site. We did have users in the past who would upload as many as 5 versions of an image from different sources with no visible differences just to pad their post count. Nowadays it's people with a similar issue to you: getting unfair deletions.

IIRC there are some things in the works for helping with it but if you're expecting something along the lines of image upload exclusivity that won't be it.

Chimera99 said:

Can anyone take a look at these three mainly the second one.

post #4469327
post #3439571

Classic examples of "drew boobs, phoned in the rest".

0F5654E9AC9AB9AAD5B9 said:
This becomes especially obvious with post that got a lot of up-votes before they were deleted.

This bears constant repeating:
Please stop misconstruing upvotes and quality. Upvotes are almost exclusively a measure of popularity and, more importantly, horniness. Less than 1% of the top 1000 images by score are rating:safe. And almost all of them would be labeled as NSFW by non-booru sites, being gratuitous ass, boob, and lingerie/swimsuit pics.

Hello, is there something I should correct for post #5047033 and other child posts to be approved?

My understanding is that the problem stems from the image not matching the source since it's a decensor. What's the proper etiquette for this kind of uploads, simply putting the original as parent and not inputting any source in the decensored one?

Armada6280 said:

My understanding is that the problem stems from the image not matching the source since it's a decensor.

Is it an uncensored version from the artist or a decensored version from someone else? If it’s an uncensored version you received directly from the artist, tag it uncensored and leave the source empty. If it’s an uncensored commission, nobody will complain about the empty source. If it’s a decensored version from someone else, tag it decensored and third-party_edit and use as source wherever you got that version from. If you decensored it yourself, leave the source empty and tag it self_upload.

kittey said:

Is it an uncensored version from the artist or a decensored version from someone else? If it’s an uncensored version you received directly from the artist, tag it uncensored and leave the source empty. If it’s an uncensored commission, nobody will complain about the empty source. If it’s a decensored version from someone else, tag it decensored and third-party_edit and use as source wherever you got that version from. If you decensored it yourself, leave the source empty and tag it self_upload.

Okay, I decensored it myself so I'll tag it self_upload then! Should I reupload or appeal after editing the tags to prevent the queue from cluttering up?

Pacherry said:

Hello little guys, why are purrleted these post 5056271 post 5056285 post 5056316

They are all rather simple with flat colors and not many details if you look at the approved posts for hyeing02 most of them are more detailed. The third one is essentially a sketch with some flat coloring added.

The wrong sources (Reddit) probably also don't help, the real source is in the comments. In the future, please try to upload from the original source. I will fix your past posts for now. (Edit: I noticed the original source is dead. In that case, you should add the third-party source tag.)

By the way, you if you write post numbers as post #5056316 they become clickable links: post #5056316, making things easier for other people.

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