Cataloguing Limbus/Project moon E.G.O and Identities

BUR #38255 has been approved by @nonamethanks.

rename hubert_(project_moon) -> hubert_(library_of_ruina)
deprecate hubert_(project_moon)

reversing the name and removing the alias. there is another hubert within the series now, hubert (limbus company). this is what was done with dante (library of ruina) and dante (limbus company) as well

sinfulporcupine said:

BUR #38150 has been approved by @nonamethanks.

create implication ishmael_(the_pequod)_(project_moon) -> ishmael_(project_moon)
create implication ishmael_(district_21_resident)_(project_moon) -> ishmael_(project_moon)
create implication ishmael_(identity_archive)_(project_moon) -> ishmael_(project_moon)

these are not e.g.o or identities, but rather different outfits she wears as a part of the story
the first two names stem from "role" tags paired with ishmael during those story segments, as can be seen here: https://limbuscompany.wiki.gg/wiki/Into_the_Dark/Floor_3#Mid-Battle_2
the last one is named after the identity archive, a mechanic that allows the player to listen to an identity's voicelines and read its story. the main menu of that mechanic features portraits of all 12 playable sinners, and most of them wear unique costumes there

Since they're all sub-100 tags, would it be a terrible idea to merge them into an ishmael_(past) tag?

Login_to_view said:

Kneecapping my argument from a couple days ago

Given how many identity artworks are out there, would it make sense to make an LCB outfit tag?
I think it would be especially useful for what-ifs (like post #8642256)

late message, but +1 to this. it's been on my mind for a while, it's great for OCs, parodies, and the example above

We have QoH/KoD/KoG/SoW as just Queen of Hatred etc but Jester is The Jester of Nihil. Probably should make all of them the same with regard to "The"?

The bulk update request #38150 (forum #339658) has been approved by @nonamethanks.

sinfulporcupine said:

BUR #38146 has been approved by @nonamethanks.

create alias eastern_cinq_association_(identity)_(project_moon) -> cinq_east_(identity)_(project_moon)

the more i think about it, the less i like our current approach to tagging limbus uniforms, namely that technicalities of what "identity" means forbid us from using what are basically uniform tags (not that different from school uniforms in series focusing on students) on characters that wear said uniforms in the "main" timeline, yet allow random non-canon cosplays... i dread what might happen to our tagging if we ever get to see the sinners borrowing or stealing uniforms from a faction for infiltration (without using the identity system) in canon

nevertheless... someone already made the tag for cinq east, so it should be standardized. technically the unit's name is "Cinq East Section 3 Don Quixote", skipping the word "association", but it appears our standard has been to use the word association there

Changed it to cinq east for now. Better to follow the official name, and we don't want to make these tag names even longer without a reason.

The bulk update request #38146 (forum #339644) has been approved by @nonamethanks.

The bulk update request #38255 (forum #340254) has been approved by @nonamethanks.

BUR #39155 has been approved by @nonamethanks.

create alias zwei_association_south_(identity)_(project_moon) -> zwei_south_(identity)_(project_moon)
create alias zwei_association_west_(identity)_(project_moon) -> zwei_west_(identity)_(project_moon)

is that so? in that case, zwei needs to be shortened as well

i am still of the opinion association identity tags should be converted to uniform tags so that NPCs and pre/non-limbus characters can be tagged with them accurately, but if this is what we should be doing from now-onwards, then so be it

the image above displays all currently known zwei characters that i am aware of, with the branch and section specified. no clear pattern in designs emerges from sections, meaning they can be safely ignored (for now, at least). sinclair, rodion, faust, heathcliff and ishmael are identities (gacha alts), while julia, isadora, welter, unnamed character and paula are NPCs/enemies

BUR #39156 has been approved by @nonamethanks.

remove alias hubert_(library_of_ruina) -> hubert_(project_moon)

Need to do this first

The bulk update request #39156 (forum #343885) has been approved by @nonamethanks.

BUR #39170 has been approved by @nonamethanks.

alternatively, turning association identity tags into appropriate uniform tags. other groups that follow a standardized dresscode should follow suit, associations are simply the easiest to start with

favgroup #42147 deals with posts that feature only the civilian disguises of zwei south identities, which, naturally, do not feature the uniform

there currently are 12 associations in-universe, each corresponding to a number in a specific language. the BUR follows that order.
notes:

• we currently know two versions of the hana (1) uniform, southern (that olivier, mirinae and harold wear, and northern, worn by han-ul (there are currently no identities from this association). however, the northern variant currently has no appropriate images on danbooru, so it is ignored
• zwei (2) is somewhat troublesome due to pre-uptie identities having separate civilian outfits
• we have never seen tres (3) association
• shi (4) is somewhat strange, as the limbus shi identities have rather different outfits than ruina's shi members, despite both representing southern branches. it could be due to a gap in sections, as limbus has section 5, while ruina has section 2. moreover, despite zwei also featuring multiple sections within one branch, such discrepancies were not observed. i have tentatively put both together under one tag
• cinq (5) was still pending the split between south and west
• we have yet to see eight (8)'s uniform properly. supposedly pequod captain ishmael wears its uniform based on her hat featuring the number, though not much is certain
• devyat' (9) was missing an apostrophe
• dieci (10) seems to have further division into keys and fists, though so far, the only difference appears to be the choice of weapon and glove color
• we have never seen whatever association is associated with number 12

• i will have to add updates for liu (6) and seven (7) at a later date to add their ruina characters
• this should not be necessary for devyat' (9), dieci (10) or oufi (11), as they were first seen in limbus company

I don't know.
I don't disagree, but also...
I dislike this for a variety of reasons. It breaks down when you get to factions with less standardized outfits (refer to the two molar office tags. You can't lump them into olga_(project_moon)_(cosplay) either, because they are different outfits. And they would flood the original character tag...)
I feel like it just replaces an issue with a different issue.

this change would not affect every single identity in the game. specifically tags for ones that can reasonably be considered to have a proper uniform or dress code. associations definitely have standardized uniforms, offices - not always

BUR #39392 has been approved by @nonamethanks.

create implication christmas_nightmare_(e.g.o) -> e.g.o_(project_moon)

it is an e.g.o

BUR #39860 has been approved by @nonamethanks.

rename the_jester_of_nihil -> jester_of_nihil

consistency with Queen of Hatred, Knight of Despair, King of Greed and Servant of Wrath

BUR #39881 has been rejected.

create alias queen_of_hatred -> the_queen_of_hatred
create alias knight_of_despair -> the_knight_of_despair
create alias king_of_greed -> the_king_of_greed
create alias servant_of_wrath -> the_servant_of_wrath

Alternate version

The bulk update request #39860 (forum #346644) has been approved by @nonamethanks.

The bulk update request #39881 (forum #346733) has been rejected by @nonamethanks.

The bulk update request #39392 (forum #344819) has been approved by @nonamethanks.