I've noticed that there are no tags for GBC characters' RPG designs from last month's merch.
I don't think there are any official names for them, so what would be a good name for these? iseri_nina_(RPG) for example?
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While the designs I'm popular, I'm worried that making tags for them will just open the floodgates to any random collab getting tags, which sounds horrible in terms of upkeep (since a lot of people won be keeping track of it all).
For those reading along, this is regarding the designs in post #9461335. They're used for goods, which isn't uncommon for this copyright, but their popularity is above average.
do these count as official_alternate_costume?
IMO they should have tags. I'd argue that compared to the average collab, it has more distinctive costumes and a larger volume of art which make it worthy of organization. I personally want to search for it and there should be some way to do so. An alternative could be to tag fantasy on them, but a grand total of 0 GBC posts currently have that tag so that's likely be even less apparent to an unknowing tagger.
Also, this site was the first place I saw the designs and it took me a minute to find the source. It's nice to have something to click when you see a cool new thing to see what it's all about, whether it's a wiki page or just other posts I can search for explanatory comments or commentary.
It's true we have a way of taking things to the unreasonable extreme around here, but I'd still argue that overtagging is better than under if we must choose between the two, and furthermore that we shouldn't leave a legitimately tag-worthy concept untagged just because of a potential reaction to it.
As for tag names, the merch is labeled like "(RPG風) 1井芹 仁菜" = "(RPG style) #1 Iseri Nina" and not "maou" or anything so yeah I think any names for the costumes would be unofficial.
"RPG" seems like a fine qualifier to me.
Although, would a copytag be more appropriate than sub-chartags? Or it could even just be a gentag? Searching for a specific girl's RPG version would then be a two-tag search, but you'd have a way to search for any of them / the whole theme with a single tag.
I will humbly(?) suggest "rpg band cry" as either a copy or general tag.
I think a general tag could work. For some collabs, we can use existing tags like Lawson or FamilyMart (lawson bang_dream!_it's_mygo!!!!! for an example), but in this case it's probably more ergonomic to just have a general tag for it. This also prevents messy chartags and should be sufficient for most searching needs.
As for the name... ugh, I'm kind of blanking on better solutions so I'll probably just side with the majority here.
As much as I would sort of like to have chartags for each design, it would tend to set a bad precedent in terms of making chartags for every single unnamed outfit that appears in official art. But it has inspired a fuck ton of art and it is kinda an AU within the copyright, so it should be searchable. So I also like the idea of a gentag/copytag.
girls band cry rpg? The artists are just calling it RPG.
ZeroAurora said:
I don't think this design is a collab? rpg_style_costume might work though, but it's a bit subjective
I'm calling it a collab in the general sense in that it's an AU for some merch (which is usually produced in collaboration with one or more companies to make, market or sell it).
CoreMack said:
As much as I would sort of like to have chartags for each design, it would tend to set a bad precedent in terms of making chartags for every single unnamed outfit that appears in official art.
Yeah this is what I'm worried about, because while this definitely has a very large amount of art now, I still expect it to last only a few months (as is usual with these kinds of outfits).
I don't think a copytag is necessary, just a gentag to indicate the event is fine I think. Girls Band Cry RPG sounds like a good, ergonomic tag name.
Not sure if I like it being a gentag. Is there a precedent for an alternate universe being tagged as a gentag?
Also, I noticed that there are a lot of GBC posts that are mistagged with animal ears when there's nothing remotely resembling animal ears in the image, like post #9174837 and post #9408918.
BaiserLaVerite said:
Not sure if I like it being a gentag. Is there a precedent for an alternate universe being tagged as a gentag?
ave mujica (bang dream!) I think, although I don't like it (should be a copytag imo)
BUR #42771 is pending approval.
create implication girls_band_cry_rpg -> girls_band_cry
I agree that it makes more sense as a copyright. I've manually changed it so that this BUR can be submitted, but if this BUR is rejected it should be manually changed back to a gentag.
I have fully populated the tag and fleshed out the wiki.
ZeroAurora said:
ave mujica (bang dream!) I think, although I don't like it (should be a copytag imo)
ave mujica (bang dream!) is not comparable, it's a band tag for the five characters in the band appearing together. The Ave Mujica "copyright" is aliased to the MyGo copyright tag.
ZeroAurora said:
ave mujica (bang dream!) I think, although I don't like it (should be a copytag imo)
that tag is a character group tag for the band's members. the precedent for ave mujica not being a copytag of its own is, if i recall correctly, that it and the previous season are so closely intertwined in characters and plot that it would be too troublesome to decide which tag to use.
BaiserLaVerite said:
Not sure if I like it being a gentag. Is there a precedent for an alternate universe being tagged as a gentag?
I think there's several, but the one coming to mind right now is the various *popularity_poll_(boku_no_hero_academia) tags.
Kaleidoscoped said:
that tag is a character group tag for the band's members. the precedent for ave mujica not being a copytag of its own is, if i recall correctly, that it and the previous season are so closely intertwined in characters and plot that it would be too troublesome to decide which tag to use.
I was thinking about it already having its tv anime series, but I'm also fine with the current situation.
My logic in advocating for a general tag instead of a copyright subtag is that, while it's an "AU" in normal internet speak, I think it's closer to an event tag, since there isn't exactly any lore or new characters involved. Whip the Wimp Girl!! (Project Sekai) comes to mind.