Contributors contradictons.

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I’m just making this post has a shot to contributors and their heavy contradiction to each other. I’ve received to different emails from contributors contradicting each other.

1 I get a email saying I need to stop changing parents when a contributor uploads a copy I posted that’s identical because the “Bluesky post has higher resolution”

But the moment I do it back to them when they upload a post and I upload the Bluesky version I get a email tells to stop and follow the rules from another contributor.

The contributor contradiction is absolutely insane lately. It’s one rule for them another for others.

zetsubousensei said in forum #437591:

When assessing an image you are looking for multiple things. See help:post relationships, specifically "For identical images." post #11305620 is the child because it is more heavily artifacted and a lower res ditto on post #11306367

Are there any specific images you think should be the parent?

Thank you for the reply. There was also post #11282426 where I was told it was the child post and was constantly changed to child. But now you’re stating that Bluesky version is the inferior resolution when multiple contributors are using the Bluesky version has parents for multiple uploads

Onryo25 said in forum #437596:

Thank you for the reply. There was also post #11282426 where I was told it was the child post and was constantly changed to child. But now you’re stating that Bluesky version is the inferior resolution when multiple contributors are using the Bluesky version has parents for multiple uploads

Both post #11282426 and post #11282427 have the same resolution. However, post #11282426 has more image artifacts than post #11282427, so post #11282427 should be the parent.

It can be hard to tell since both images are grainy, but zoom in and look at the lines and you should be able to see the difference.

To clarify, the Bluesky posts are not superior simply because they are from Bluesky. You have to look at both images and compare the resolution and quality.

Also, if someone is DMailing you about parenting, they need to explain what you're doing wrong instead of just telling you to follow the rules (referring to the second one you mentioned).

Updated by Blank User

The part of the wiki that says that highest resolution takes precedence over highest quality should be rewritten. Otherwise, it implies that a heavily compressed 2048px .jpg from twitter is preferable to a less compressed 2000px image from bsky.

hdk5 said in forum #437618:

The part of the wiki that says that highest resolution takes precedence over highest quality should be rewritten. Otherwise, it implies that a heavily compressed 2048px .jpg from twitter is preferable to a less compressed 2000px image from bsky.

I agree, I added a mention of this to the resolution part. Tbh I'm not really a fan of the "consider in this order" thing but I don't see any good way we can make this otherwise non-technical-user-friendly. In practice it's generally fine since people know who can be trusted with these decisions, but it still sometimes causes conflicts.

I also agree in this case. It's also even visible in practice if you look beyond strictly being anal about resolution and artifacts; topic #35057 comes to mind as a recent example. There's been a number of similar cases where, despite resolution "taking precedence" in parenting, we prefer uncensored versions of images to be the parent when the resolution difference isn't egregious.

hasu_no_hassennen said in forum #437645:

Not really, you can see up close that it's a repost of the Twitter version. Bluesky smoothed over the artifacts and made it ever so slightly smaller, to boot.

Correct, you can see the same artifacts are present on the Bluesky (left) version as on the Twitter (right) version, they are just slightly smoothed out, and there's additional artifacts surrounding them.

reg_panda said in forum #437644:

I think post #11306367 is slightly better quality than its current parent post #11303756. OP has followed help:upload well, found a better version of the same picture, uploaded it, and made it parent.

If they had followed help:post relationships then the origin site probably wouldn't have been mentioned, since that is never mentioned as a factor in determining quality.

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