I don't think we need Lycoris Recoil costume tags

BUR #53916 has been rejected.

nuke inoue_takina_(hawaii)
nuke nishikigi_chisato_(hawaii)

I noticed @Insanity_Demon made these tags (pinging to make you aware of this topic), and personally I don't think we need these tags.

Their kimono costumes (post #7364790) and their winter casual costumes (post #5626692) also get plenty of fanart, but they're still just variations of casual clothing. Nothing like gacha game costumes.

There's also no wikis or implication BURs for these tags but again, I don't think we need them.

BUR #53919 has been rejected.

create implication inoue_takina_(hawaii) -> inoue_takina
create implication nishikigi_chisato_(hawaii) -> nishikigi_chisato

I don't see what's the issue with making it easier to search for these costumes, especially when each one of them has around a hundred posts, which is more that can be said for a lot of already implied costume tags out there.

nsmrtmr1 said in forum #415222:

BUR #53919 has been rejected.

create implication inoue_takina_(hawaii) -> inoue_takina
create implication nishikigi_chisato_(hawaii) -> nishikigi_chisato

I don't see what's the issue with making it easier to search for these costumes, especially when each one of them has around a hundred posts, which is more that can be said for a lot of already implied costume tags out there.

(One of) the issue(s) is making costume tags for a bunch of casual outfits for a random anime that doesn't really need them because they're mostly just random outfits that are decently (but not perfectly, no) searchable with a handful of other tags.

If these are justified, we can make costume tags for the kimonos, the winter clothes, the blu-ray cover bikinis (post #5777715, rough search), why not the Lycoris Uniform as well then. Now you've ended up with between 6 and 10 new tags just for the main protagonists, not even mentioning side characters, that clutter tags and will require upkeep. I'm also not saying someone might make them, I'm saying there would be little reason not to make (and good reason to make) at least a few of these, if Lycoris Recoil is going the way of costume chartags anyway. Having 1 random costume set tagged while multiple other recognizable and common ones go untagged would be ridiculous.

Let me be the first to admit that I mainly did it as a test to see whether people thought it was worth doing or not. I'm now starting to realise that doing that unilaterally wasn't such a good idea, and even if the implications do get approved, I've already made a mental note to not be so impulsive in the future.

ANON_TOKYO said in forum #415247:

I'm also not saying someone might make them, I'm saying there would be little reason not to make (and good reason to make) at least a few of these, if Lycoris Recoil is going the way of costume chartags anyway. Having 1 random costume set tagged while multiple other recognizable and common ones go untagged would be ridiculous.

It's as if I've warned everyone about this. Even when you're dealing with costumetagging cases outside of the Costume Tagging Debate, things will always go towards it due to maximalists.

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Bumping this in the hope it gets seen now that BURs are being handled again, I still don't think these tags serve much purpose.

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nuke inoue_takina_(hawaii)
nuke nishikigi_chisato_(hawaii)

I don't think anything has changed when it comes to this, and there being a single random costum tag is not ideal either.

I wish I could give things a .5 upvote. Because while yeah, I don't think we really want a ton of costume tags for anime characters, these are at least unique enough that a 2-tag search for them wouldn't really cover it...

If they're going to exist they should at least be implicated though.

downtempo said in forum #439269:

I wish I could give things a .5 upvote. Because while yeah, I don't think we really want a ton of costume tags for anime characters, these are at least unique enough that a 2-tag search for them wouldn't really cover it...

For this reason I'm also like 80% on this anyway. They are definitely recognizable, sure, but the same can be said for a large number of other costumes. Recognizing these would logically necessitate the other ones too, since I don't see how these are special enough to be the only ones warranting their own tag.

What's the problem with having multiple tags for these costumes? Both of these characters have over 6,000 posts; if they were characters from, say, Genshin Impact or Blue Archive, they would be among the top 30 characters by post count. All of the top 30 characters in Blue Archive have their own tags for costumes, even quite casual ones like sportswear or pajamas. The only Genshin tag in this category that doesn't have its own costume tags is Boo Tao. A large portion of Genshin's costume tags aren't even in-game costumes, but rather collaborations or merch.

I don't understand the difference between games and anime series.

てはいさ said in forum #439284:

What's the problem with having multiple tags for these costumes? Both of these characters have over 6,000 posts; if they were characters from, say, Genshin Impact or Blue Archive, they would be among the top 30 characters by post count. All of the top 30 characters in Blue Archive have their own tags for costumes, even quite casual ones like sportswear or pajamas. The only Genshin tag in this category that doesn't have its own costume tags is Boo Tao.

The problem is the range of acceptability for costume tags. The two games you just mentioned are gachas, which are seen as acceptable justification for costume tags. The costumes mentioned here are not from a gacha. It's a lot more complicated than that, but this is the context for why I brought up the Costume Tagging Debate in forum #415271.

I'm not about to ask you to read walls of text elsewhere, but topic #32523/topic #33754 and forum #390638 are basically primers. For anime/manga costume tags specifically, there's a concern that if more costume tags get approved, the mindset behind costume tagging that exists in gacha/etc spaces would start infecting it and suddenly something like forum #312105 becomes valid.

てはいさ said in forum #439284:

A large portion of Genshin's costume tags aren't even in-game costumes, but rather collaborations or merch.

I don't understand the difference between games and anime series.

Genshin's situation with collab costume tags is uniquely related to Genshin, see topic #33350. And if you don't understand the difference between copyrights, you shouldn't even be thinking about costume tags to begin with.

BUR #59401 is pending approval.

create implication nishikigi_chisato_(red_spark_guitar)_(nikke) -> nishikigi_chisato
create implication inoue_takina_(blue_pulse_bass)_(nikke) -> inoue_takina
create implication inoue_takina_(da_training_wear)_(nikke) -> inoue_takina
create implication nishikigi_chisato_(da_training_wear)_(nikke) -> nishikigi_chisato

Gacha costumes.

BUR #59404 is pending approval.

rename nishikigi_chisato_(red_spark_guitar)_(nikke) -> nishikigi_chisato_(red_spark_guitar)
rename inoue_takina_(blue_pulse_bass)_(nikke) -> inoue_takina_(blue_pulse_bass)
rename inoue_takina_(da_training_wear)_(nikke) -> inoue_takina_(da_training_wear)
rename nishikigi_chisato_(da_training_wear)_(nikke) -> nishikigi_chisato_(da_training_wear)

I don't know why "Nikke" is in the tag name

BUR #59409 is pending approval.

create implication inoue_takina_(hawaii) -> inoue_takina
create implication nishikigi_chisato_(hawaii) -> nishikigi_chisato

As mentioned already, there are a ton of already implied gacha costumes that are just casual costumes on the site that aren't any different from the Hawaii costumes with regards to how much they differ from their original design. These costumes also can't be reliably searched for with a two tag search. And they are not just some obscure one-off costumes with how much they get featured in fanart, these costumes even got their own official figures which far from every design gets.
All costume tags require upkeep, and it would be "clutter" for any character with multiple costumes. None of the downsides mentioned in this thread are something unique to Lycoris Recoil.

Wait no, I voted on these burs but now that I looked closer, @てはいさ what are you doing? The tags you're creating and the wikis you're writing are just straight up wrong:

• Inoue Takina (Da Training Wear) (Nikke) is just from the anime, episode 3 (asset #48273204)
• Inoue Takina (Cafe Lycoreco No Seifuku Ver.), aside from being an absolutely terrible name (just call it "Kimono"), is also just from the anime (asset #48273236, episode 1). I even mentioned this one in forum #415247

If you aren't familiar with the copyright don't go creating random tags and wikis with wrong information.