Quick, history buffs, what's a two on one fight Kaga fucking dominated?

I think this is the one that caused controversy among the Chinese recently when Kaga (JMSDF) was christened.

rpgman1 said:

I think this is the one that caused controversy among the Chinese recently when Kaga (JMSDF) was christened.

Well, September 1937 was bang in the middle of the Second Sino-Japanese War, which all the IJN's then-operational fleet carriers (Hōshō, Akagi, Kaga) were active combatants in. I'm not sure what, specifically, happened on the 23rd; I was under the impression that Kaga's air wings were temporarily detached to land bases, and the ship herself not much involved in their operations, at that time. Seems apparent that those other two characters are meant to represent Chinese ships, though again, I thought most of the IJNAS's activities were directed against land-based Chinese forces at that point in the war. So I dunno. I have fewer reference materials on hand regarding that war than I do the one that {followed|blended into} it.

The modern Japanese naming anything after anything that was involved in the Sino-Japanese Wars is going to cause controversy, regardless. Even compared to the excesses of the Pacific War, that period was... not Japan's finest hour.

Googling says these were the Chinese ships Ning Hai and Ping Hai that were sunk by Kaga's planes.

Those are Ning Hai and Ping Hai, RO. Chinese light cruisers made in Japan and partly-based from Yubari. Wikipedia says they got sunk in the Yangtze river by Japanese aircraft in September 25 and 23 respectively. Also the Japanese refloated them in 1938. Their art is from Warship Girls (the chinese android game) iirc

seascrub said:

Those are Ning Hai and Ping Hai, RO. Chinese light cruisers made in Japan and partly-based from Yubari. Wikipedia says they got sunk in the Yangtze river by Japanese aircraft in September 25 and 23 respectively. Also the Japanese refloated them in 1938. Their art is from Warship Girls (the chinese android game) iirc

Thanks for the info, tagging them right now.

seascrub said:

Those are Ning Hai and Ping Hai, RO. Chinese light cruisers made in Japan and partly-based from Yubari. Wikipedia says they got sunk in the Yangtze river by Japanese aircraft in September 25 and 23 respectively. Also the Japanese refloated them in 1938. Their art is from Warship Girls (the chinese android game) iirc

Technically Ping Hai was made in China, so she's sort of like a smaller Chinese counterpart to Hiei (while Ning Hai can be considered a mini counterpart to Kongou).

Discounting, of course, the fact that Ping Hai was pretty much given the "drop the baby on the floor, repeatedly' treatment by her Japanese nannies while the Chinese were trying to raise her with the 'help' of those so called Japanese nannies. And denied 'milk powder' shipments.

bunkhead said:

Quick, history buffs, what's a two on one fight Kaga fucking dominated?

Kaga totally cheated by having a bunch of airfield-launched planes on her side.

...not that the Chinese had any chance anyway.

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Edit: Ah, I remember now, y.ssanoha drew the Ning Hai sisters earlier here.

Is this really Unexpectedly Evil when the majority sees the IJN as evil in this conflict anyway?

NNescio said:

...not that the Chinese had any chance anyway.

Yeah, these were China's best ships...and they were shrunk-down versions of the already undersized Yubari, with speed so low even slow battleships are fast by comparison.