There is "prepared", "properly prepared", "Crazy prepared" and than there is "Batman". There is no one prepared like Batman. This is a guy who would leave behind a physical backup copy of his computer interface, written in binary, on titanium, so that people in a thousand years might be able to boot up his computers records to deal with a threat they had long forgotten about. This is the guy who has a plan to defeat every one of his allies, just in case they turn evil. This is the guy who can psychologically damage psychopaths like no one else can. They fear him. Most of them shouldn't be able to be afraid of anything. But they fear the Batman.
Not perfectly, or Joker would have the occasional victory.
And even that wouldn't actually work, because Batman's so prepared he's cultivated an emergency backup split personality to takeover in case he's psychologically too compromised to do the job.
Not perfectly, or Joker would have the occasional victory.
And even that wouldn't actually work, because Batman's so prepared he's cultivated an emergency backup split personality to takeover in case he's psychologically too compromised to do the job.
Actually, Batman most of the times lost to Joker but the Joker never acknowledge it as a win since his real goal is to put Bats to insanity and drag him the same level as the him.
That is why even tho the Joker have already been given many chances to kill Bats, he wont because it's not killing Bats the goal but killing "The Batman" is what he's after..
Actually, Batman most of the times lost to Joker but the Joker never acknowledge it as a win since his real goal is to put Bats to insanity and drag him the same level as the him.
That is why even tho the Joker have already been given many chances to kill Bats, he wont because it's not killing Bats the goal but killing "The Batman" is what he's after..
Well that is my take on their 'relationship'.
And which continuity is this based upon? Because there are a lot of continuities where Joker is just trying to rob banks, he fails because his own insanity leads him to make hilariously awful choices, and he winds up back in Arkham.
And which continuity is this based upon? Because there are a lot of continuities where Joker is just trying to rob banks, he fails because his own insanity leads him to make hilariously awful choices, and he winds up back in Arkham.
I think What you are talking about is the silver age Joker where because of the censorship law at that time, comics needs to be more "kid friendly" that is why he was reduce to robbing banks just to be foiled by Batman in the most ridiculous ways unlike his gangster golden age self.
What i am talking about is the modern age where Joker is an anarchists and have an unhealthy obsession to Batman and always going into unreasonable ways just to push Bats into insanity which always fails.
Like what Joker said at the Batman trilogy of Nolan, Batman completes him. And Bats best weapon is his strength, skills, and intelligence w/c is ultimately useless against the unreasonable and unpredictable insanity of the Joker.
I think What you are talking about is the silver age Joker where because of the censorship law at that time, comics needs to be more "kid friendly" that is why he was reduce to robbing banks just to be foiled by Batman in the most ridiculous ways unlike his gangster golden age self.
What i am talking about is the modern age where Joker is an anarchists and have an unhealthy obsession to Batman and always going into unreasonable ways just to push Bats into insanity which always fails.
Like what Joker said at the Batman trilogy of Nolan, Batman completes him. And Bats best weapon is his strength, skills, and intelligence w/c is ultimately useless against the unreasonable and unpredictable insanity of the Joker.
There's also the cartoon Batman Jokers, including the highly popular and influential Mark Hamill Joker but also several newer cartoon series, the Adam West Batman's Cesar West Joker, 1980 Batman movie Jack Nicholson Joker, and a whole lot of comic writers past the silver age that just didn't get down with the Alan Moore version of Joker.
Anyway, my point is, there isn't any single, unified continuity or interpretation of Joker upon which blanket statements like that can be placed, just a preferred interpretation. If anything, since this is using the Batman vs. Superman movie, you'd have to go by judgement of the Joker in that continuity, which would be the Joker that appears in Suicide Squad. I didn't watch that movie, though, so I can't say with full confidence how that one really operates.
There's also the cartoon Batman Jokers, including the highly popular and influential Mark Hamill Joker but also several newer cartoon series, the Adam West Batman's Cesar West Joker, 1980 Batman movie Jack Nicholson Joker, and a whole lot of comic writers past the silver age that just didn't get down with the Alan Moore version of Joker.
Anyway, my point is, there isn't any single, unified continuity or interpretation of Joker upon which blanket statements like that can be placed, just a preferred interpretation. If anything, since this is using the Batman vs. Superman movie, you'd have to go by judgement of the Joker in that continuity, which would be the Joker that appears in Suicide Squad. I didn't watch that movie, though, so I can't say with full confidence how that one really operates.
Actually, the latest canon info that there is actually 3 Jokers in the DC universe which is the Gangster JOker, the Robber Joker, and the Insane/Anarchist Joker.
Actually, the latest canon info that there is actually 3 Jokers in the DC universe which is the Gangster JOker, the Robber Joker, and the Insane/Anarchist Joker.
...So, '89 movie, '60s show, and Dark Knight versions respectively?
Whoever finds the Martha scene terrible and funny clearly has no respect for his own mother. Does it have to take for their own mothers' lives to be in danger in order for them to realize how much sense that scene makes and how touching it is?
Whoever finds the Martha scene terrible and funny clearly has no respect for his own mother. Does it have to take for their own mothers' lives to be in danger in order for them to realize how much sense that scene makes and how touching it is?
Yeah, and Darth Vader finding out Padme died is also hypothetically meant to be a tragic moment, but fails because the relationship was so badly sold to audiences that they didn't care, especially since the outcome was already completely spoiled and obvious, and just having a cartoonish "NOOOOOOOO!" (or "DO NO WANT!" as the case may be) runs a serious risk of backfire in a dramatic moment.
Hell, making fun of that movie is like making fun of a clown. There're just too many targets, y'see. But that scene is like the big red nose- the perfect target in a target rich environment.
