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A small mistake:Taiwan is part part of China.It's not a country.

某科学的flak36

Except for Taiwan is a sovereign country, not a part of china.

某科学的flak36 said:

A small mistake:Taiwan is part part of China.It's not a country.

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Takaluki said:

Except for Taiwan is a sovereign country, not a part of china.

1945 was the year of Taiwan's liberation.In accordance with the post-World War II agreement, Japan returned all Taiwan, its affiliated islands, and other occupied Chinese territories to China.From this point of view, Taiwan is Chinese territory and an integral part of China.But China at that time was the Republic of China.Because the Republic has not yet been born.So strictly speaking at that time: Taiwan was the territory of the Republic of China.The People's Republic of China was founded in 1949.Announced the end of the Republic of China period.The relationship between the Republic and the Republic of China is that the Republic of China is the predecessor of the Republic, so the Republic inherits the territory of the Republic of China.(Judging from the map, it should have inherited the territory in September 1949. At this time, the Republic of China did not include northern Burma. It also recognized the independence of Outer Mongolia and claimed the sovereignty of southern Tibet. At the same time, Taiwan was also a province. With Chiang Kai-shek There are certain differences in the territory map.) Therefore, the mainland maintains that Taiwan is an integral part of China and a province of the People's Republic of China.

Takaluki said:

Except for Taiwan is a sovereign country, not a part of china.

某科学的flak36

Since people's republic of china was founded, Taiwan is became a place for all who didn't want to live in a shitty communist regime. Initially Taiwan WAS a part of the china, but after decades of separation it is became a sovereign democratic country, people of which don't want to live in an overly censored society and under a regime that is literally committing genocide against it's own citizens.

Takaluki said:
Snip.

Unilateral seccession doesn't make you an independent sovereign country, same case with other meme unrecognized "countries" like North Cyprus or Transnistria

Takaluki said:

Since people's republic of china was founded, Taiwan is became a place for all who didn't want to live in a shitty communist regime. Initially Taiwan WAS a part of the china, but after decades of separation it is became a sovereign democratic country, people of which don't want to live in an overly censored society and under a regime that is literally committing genocide against it's own citizens.

I'm in China now.In fact ,there is no genocide in China.If you're talking about the Cultural Revolution，that was in the 1960s.And then,The Communist Party of China realized the mistake.And do you know the 1938 Yellow River flood is what the Taiwanese government used to do.It made millions people died.So why you only condemn the Communist Party of China?If the facts are as you say, why has China achieved so much in so many years of development?Sometimes the news is wrong,seeing is believing.

某科学的flak36 said:

I'm in China now.In fact ,there is no genocide in China.If you're talking about the Cultural Revolution，that was in the 1960s.And then,The Communist Party of China realized the mistake.And do you know the 1938 Yellow River flood is what the Taiwanese government used to do.It made millions people died.So why you only condemn the Communist Party of China?If the facts are as you say, why has China achieved so much in so many years of development?Sometimes the news is wrong,seeing is believing.

How's that housing market going for you? And the declining birthrate no thanks to One-Child Policy? And Uyghur moslems?

某科学的flak36 said:

I'm in China now.In fact ,there is no genocide in China.If you're talking about the Cultural Revolution，that was in the 1960s.And then,The Communist Party of China realized the mistake.And do you know the 1938 Yellow River flood is what the Taiwanese government used to do.It made millions people died.So why you only condemn the Communist Party of China?If the facts are as you say, why has China achieved so much in so many years of development?Sometimes the news is wrong,seeing is believing.

Yeah, china is DEFINITELY NOT genociding Uyghurs and other ethnic and religious minorities.

Takaluki said:

Yeah, china is DEFINITELY NOT genociding Uyghurs and other ethnic and religious minorities.

China?
Oh, you mean West Taiwan. My bad, I got confused here.

某科学的flak36 said:

I'm in China now.In fact ,there is no genocide in China. ...

Hey do you remember how the government kidnapped entire families of Uyghur people, with a particular focus on artists, poets, etc. and either used them as slave labor or handed them over to the CIA and said "here's some al-Qaida sympathizers, do whatever you want with them"? Or how access to pretty much every aspect of Uyghur culture is tightly controlled, including beards and names? And while they were doing this they were building housing that Uyghurs have not been allowed to move into? And how this is being done on a massive scale, some estimate upwards of three million people being displaced in this manner? And that they say that they're "only doing this to combat terrorism uwu" (classic genocidaire talking point, goes back at least as far as the Ottomans and the Russians)?

某科学的flak36 said:

And do you know the 1938 Yellow River flood is what the Taiwanese government used to do.It made millions people died.

Funny how you bring this up instead of atrocities the KMT committed after they left the mainland. Also this is worded like Taiwan invaded China in WWII which is ridiculous.

Myony said:

Funny how you bring this up instead of atrocities the KMT committed after they left the mainland. Also this is worded like Taiwan invaded China in WWII which is ridiculous.

Yes,you are right.

Rathurue said:

How's that housing market going for you? And the declining birthrate no thanks to One-Child Policy? And Uyghur moslems?

Real estate is really a big problem，you're right. But US treasuries are also a problem.Falling birth rates are also a problem. But the three-child policy has long been in place， and the policy was relaxed a decade ago.The Uighur problem is a hoax. There is almost no religious problem in China.To be honest,in China, the system of regional national autonomy is practised in minority areas.I have some ethnic minority friends around me.They say life is much better than before.Cultural problems do exist.The culture of ethnic minorities has not been developed and inherited.But China has boosted tourism by developing the culture of ethnic minorities and has developed bilingual textbooks for some to help them learn their own languages.China's anti-poverty policies have been so effective that absolute poverty has been eliminated, with even the poorest regions disposable income an average of $7,000 a year per person（Prices are low in China, and demand rarely outstrips supply）.China respects religious differences.Said one netizen，His grandmother was a Buddhist, his mother was a Christian, and he and his father were not religious.But they were in harmony with each other, and the government would not stand in the way of a congregation.The mother of my history teacher's classmate was a Christian and her life would not have been changed by religion.

Rathurue said:

How's that housing market going for you? And the declining birthrate no thanks to One-Child Policy? And Uyghur moslems?

Here's a way to tell a Chinese person apart: ask him to say a line from an ancient Chinese poem like“床前明月光，疑是地上霜.”I'm actually a real Chinese.China does have a lot of development problems right now.Such as mortgage problems, vacation time adjustment, overtime and so on.But every Chinese are pride in their motherland.There is also an interesting fact, about 250 million Chinese people are interested in the two-dimensional culture.I'm one of them.At Bilibili, 124 anime titles have been viewed more than 100 million times.The A Certain Scientific Railgun total is about half a billion views.That's one of my favorite anime.There are also some less popular anime, which are preferred by certain groups, such as Girls und Panzer（Because I am interested in the military, I have been looking at it recently, and I like some of the military detail）.That's why come here.In fact, I just find what I think is wrong and point it out.A lot of western propaganda is wrong.I don't want to quarrel with anyone, and I understand that you are in the same mood as me: correct what you think is wrong.I also hope to change some of your wrong impressions about China.If you still want to stick to their own ideas, I can not change.If you have the ability, I also hope you really come to China.There is good security, a rich culture and people are friendly (unless you cause trouble).And Wish You a happy new year in advance.

Rathurue said:

How's that housing market going for you? And the declining birthrate no thanks to One-Child Policy? And Uyghur moslems?

By the way, I use machine translation (I am not good at English) , so there may be some mistakes

某科学的flak36 said:

[...] A lot of western propaganda is wrong. [...]

A big issue with this is that it assumes Western reports and articles are all part of a single organized group, why it's all lumped together as "Western propaganda" but the reports on things such as what China is doing to the Uyghurs is coming from various organizations, many not being affiliated with any government. On the other hand all of China's reporting is explicitly government controlled, whether it's books, newspapers, television, radio, or internet. Even worse, under Xi what little division there was between the Government and the Chinese Communist Party was erased. After Mao the government deliberately created some barriers between it and the communist party to prevent an all powerful dictatorship like under Mao. Xi has removed all those barriers and the communications office that used to be under the government was in fact moved and placed directly under the control of the Chinese Communist Party's propaganda wing.

GreyOmega4K said:
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You mean schizo like Adrian Zenz who honestly believes China is the Antichrist? If you care to check then you'll know that there are plenty of non-western sources who visited Xinjiang and didn't believe there's a genocide. If this genocide is so clear where's the proof then? It's been 5 years or so. Where're the corpses, mass graves, massive exodus as people escape en masse in fear of their lives? Where are the supposed millions of internment people? Even the claim of cultural genocide is extremely suspect by what we could see. Here's a vlogger with 1k sub and 2k views video of her walking around in Urumqi. Note people walking around with traditional clothes. Are they all CCP plant?
https://youtu.be/D0ru5wsxS4U?si=7EPA6KnnfLVpGvt_
So far all these accusations of genocide amount to "nuh-uh, they're totally doing it"

Tl;dr: Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence and we've seen no solid proof of genocide. Until then, innocent until proven guilty.

GreyOmega4K said:

Even worse, under Xi what little division there was between the Government and the Chinese Communist Party was erased. After Mao the government deliberately created some barriers between it and the communist party to prevent an all powerful dictatorship like under Mao. Xi has removed all those barriers and the communications office that used to be under the government was in fact moved and placed directly under the control of the Chinese Communist Party's propaganda wing.

I'm getting some really bad WW3 vibes right now, this is terrifying.

GreyOmega4K said:

A big issue with this is that it assumes Western reports and articles are all part of a single organized group, why it's all lumped together as "Western propaganda" but the reports on things such as what China is doing to the Uyghurs is coming from various organizations, many not being affiliated with any government. On the other hand all of China's reporting is explicitly government controlled, whether it's books, newspapers, television, radio, or internet. Even worse, under Xi what little division there was between the Government and the Chinese Communist Party was erased. After Mao the government deliberately created some barriers between it and the communist party to prevent an all powerful dictatorship like under Mao. Xi has removed all those barriers and the communications office that used to be under the government was in fact moved and placed directly under the control of the Chinese Communist Party's propaganda wing.

You ignore the role of mass media, most of the information actually depends on our own comments on the site and so on. It is true that the mainstream media is controlled by the government, but there is still a lot of local media.In China, the influence of the state media has dwindled because most people's main sources of information come from short videos and mass comments in comment sections.The problem is that the west is hostile to an increasingly powerful socialist state.This has led to a lot of bad press from different countries about China, but in fact China is not what they say.

某科学的flak36 said:

[...].The problem is that the west is hostile to an increasingly powerful socialist state.[...]

Socialist my @$$, china is a capitalist dystopia, this kind of state is going to backfire badly for the CCP , and the party totaly deserve it

某科学的flak36 said:

A small mistake:Taiwan is part part of China.It's not a country.

The technology looks too advanced and reliable here to actually be chinese though. Not to say that this stuff is very advanced.

Bionicman76 said:

The technology looks too advanced and reliable here to actually be chinese though. Not to say that this stuff is very advanced.

That's because the depicted army is Taiwanese, and they use American weaponry like in this artwork.

Jnglmpera said:

That's because the depicted army is Taiwanese, and they use American weaponry like in this artwork.

I know, I was indirectly saying Chinese military shit is shit.

Bionicman76 said:

I know, I was indirectly saying Chinese military shit is shit.

Well the current Chinese military leaks has Chinese nuclear ballistic missles uses water in exchange of proper fuel because of intense corruption on the Chinese military. Xi has been purging them since like last year.

Keough said:

Well the current Chinese military leaks has Chinese nuclear ballistic missles uses water in exchange of proper fuel because of intense corruption on the Chinese military. Xi has been purging them since like last year.

Jesus, lol. I was about the ask what the military equivalent of "Chinese apartment collapses" is.

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