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That's why it's also tagged inseki for the wedding rings and adoptive parent and adoptive child for the root relationship. For the tagging choice, as explained before in other comments sections and related topics (e.g. topic #36059 is in active discussion), a large amount of people already refer to Aemeath (endearingly and otherwise) as a "daughter", the game itself in no uncertain terms refers to them as family, and artist depictions of them are frequently familial, so the tagging choice is mainly to help people find this kind of content. There isn't really a misunderstanding besides from people who are still rooted in denialism.

That being said though, I review the tag sometimes and I do think that it might be considerably liberally applied when the two just exist in the same post, and that's not really the intent of relationship tags. I'm reconsidering the tags use for those cases since it leaves things less clear, especially when more than just these two are involved.

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WRS said in comment #2601188:

That's why it's also tagged inseki for the wedding rings and adoptive parent and adoptive child for the root relationship. For the tagging choice, as explained before in other comments sections and related topics (e.g. topic #36059 is in active discussion), a large amount of people already refer to Aemeath (endearingly and otherwise) as a "daughter", the game itself in no uncertain terms refers to them as family, and artist depictions of them are frequently familial, so the tagging choice is mainly to help people find this kind of content. There isn't really a misunderstanding besides from people who are still rooted in denialism.

That being said though, I review the tag sometimes and I do think that it might be considerably liberally applied when the two just exist in the same post, and that's not really the intent of relationship tags. I'm reconsidering the tags use for those cases since it leaves things less clear, especially when more than just these two are involved.

A familial bond? Sure. A parental/adoptive relationship? No. These are two widely different relationships, especially since the very idea of "family" is just a loose term to refer to close relationships. Kuro has turned those romantic before. But let's get to my point:

The game explicitly denies a parental bond. Rover was a guardian/babysitter to her for a few months, and Aemeath affirms that dynamic by dubbing herself "the child you once looked after" and the "unofficial apprentice". That characterizes their dynamic as anything but parental or adoptive, and instead points to being a guardian and mentor. If you want to add the family tag, that's appropriate because that can be interpreted in a multitude of ways, but parent and child is completely out of place here.

Kuro even banned the word "daughter" from their CN exclusive streams.

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Banning a word from one region's streams doesn't declare anything - it could easily be to prevent angering anyone who sees the character otherwise. Commonly for gacha characters that means a romantic partner. Overall, gacha relationships in general are mostly left to interpretation intentionally, with a heavier lean to always-romantic, so it's not unusual for that tone to be apparent.

While personally I've strongly argued that the text points towards a clearly familial relationship, it's important to point out that nothing, especially not the quotes you pointed out, "explicitly" deny such a relationship, but leave it as one such possibility. You can be a student or apprentice to a blood relative or not - calling yourself an apprentice doesn't nullify other bonds.

These tags are for searching and for people to be able to find this kind of content. See the topic I linked earlier. Being able to find posts like post #11377125, post #11228970, post #10729938 and post #10729451 are the intent of the tagging choice. We have babysitter but that doesn't work because her biological parents are dead and teacher and student but that's clearly not the full extent of their connection. Same goes with Umamusume characters sometimes having family tags because of the real life horses rather than the Umas themselves, or Fate characters, or ship games like Azur Lane and Kantai Collection (though that's in debate as of now).

At the very most, we do have motherly and fatherly to describe tone, but those tags don't always make sense (post #11154938 is definitely not either) when you browse the posts and read the text on them or you're an outsider looking in. Also, our use of the family tag isn't for the vague kind of idea you're describing, we have it clearly defined. There's no point making this harder to find because some people want to avoid using terms like parental or otherwise. Or like what post #10904388 references.

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Iknowme said in comment #2601193:

A familial bond? Sure. A parental/adoptive relationship? No. These are two widely different relationships, especially since the very idea of "family" is just a loose term to refer to close relationships. Kuro has turned those romantic before. But let's get to my point:

The game explicitly denies a parental bond. Rover was a guardian/babysitter to her for a few months, and Aemeath affirms that dynamic by dubbing herself "the child you once looked after" and the "unofficial apprentice". That characterizes their dynamic as anything but parental or adoptive, and instead points to being a guardian and mentor. If you want to add the family tag, that's appropriate because that can be interpreted in a multitude of ways, but parent and child is completely out of place here.

Kuro even banned the word "daughter" from their CN exclusive streams.

I mean sure but it doesn't help kuro legit added parenting books for Rover to use, if rover was just babysitting that would be fine but kuro even went so far to that rover used parenting books to raise aemeath so yes it does heavily imply aemeath is adopted daughter, anyway there even more evidence because kuro wanted cn VA to act like parents, it doesn't help also that majority of people in cn community see aemeath as a daughter as well and also the reason kuro banned the word daughter in the livestream is not because there something wrong with it, it because people on both sides were using it in a toxic way so kuro just banned it so both sides would stop being toxic, which again the cn community for wuthering waves is not united, there a big divide in cn community with wuthering waves having many different type of groups so not everyone agrees on one thing

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hafizhfp said in comment #2600268:

The X/Twitter community is going wild on this one. 😂
I think it's the first time Azur Lane has reached so many impressions on a single post.

The Kashino "Maid for Mayhem" and Taihou "Fun on the Baize" skins went viral too. Don't exactly remember if they got more or less impressions though

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Acro23 said in comment #2600279:

The Kashino "Maid for Mayhem" and Taihou "Fun on the Baize" skins went viral too. Don't exactly remember if they got more or less impressions though

I kind of remember those two, the one who went hard on twitter and some youtubers was the Robust Floral Strings (Kashino)

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Incineration said in comment #2601182:

I'll never understand the appeal of these excessively horny games.
If you enjoy them, good for you, but I would appreciate an explanation.

You wrote the explanation yourself. The appeal is horny and maybe a story if they bother with it. Personally would prefer they throw pretext out the window and just go full H-game

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iori98 said in comment #2601199:

You wrote the explanation yourself. The appeal is horny and maybe a story if they bother with it. Personally would prefer they throw pretext out the window and just go full H-game

Okay but why bother when it doesn't go all the way anyway, you have to put in the minimal effort of playing the game and you have to deal with gacha mechanics when porn exists?

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Some people probably see it as a reward for working so hard to get them or spending money on them. People do get happy when their favourites get special outfits or attention like this. I like to point at Goddess of Victory: Nikke for things like this; the game is clearly oriented towards fan servicey moments for sales, but people also care a fair deal about the story and the characters themselves, so the fan service is a reward on the side. Seeing your favourite character looking stylish and maybe letting you feel like they're pining for you a bit? To me it feels like a subset of being happy when your favourite character gets something nice.

It probably hits a right note especially in extreme cases like parasocialism, which is prevalent in gacha.

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Dude, that actually makes me understand how those so calls "rock cancer" really is. They don't just grow outside your body or flesh, but directly implanted and turn the body parts into originium....
Do more stuff like this more often mate, this kind of work is pretty interesting

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