"qos" tag to contain all race play / "blacked" / queen of spades posts

gyberus said:

Blacked_male, blacked_female, and femblacked should be alias to just raceplay judging how the tagged posts doesn't contain any wording relating to blacked_(phrase) or symbol falling under queen_of_spades_symbol but still signify race fetishism.

i like the tag name "raceplay" but unfortunately the average danbooru user is dumb as rocks and would just tag it on every post of a white girl fucking a black man regardless if the existence of the black man is meant to be fetishistic or not

gyberus said:

Blacked_male, blacked_female, and femblacked should be alias to just raceplay judging how the tagged posts doesn't contain any wording relating to blacked_(phrase) or symbol falling under queen_of_spades_symbol but still signify race fetishism.

at this point i don't care either way but i've already mentioned that "race play" makes some assumptions that don't necessarily exist in the tagged posts

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_sexuality#Racial_fetishism

Racial fetishism is sexually fetishizing a person or culture belonging to a specific race or ethnic group.

then all the way down it says this...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_sexuality#In_BDSM

There is also a practice in BDSM which involves fetishizing race called "raceplay". Susanne Schotanus defined raceplay as "a sexual practice where the either imagined or real racial background of one or more of the participants is used to create this power-imbalance in a BDSM-scene, through the use of slurs, narratives and objects laden with racial history."

maybe i'm biased but i don't think drawing a spade on a pokemon's ass like in post #8299586 is the same thing as making them say them racial slurs

i'm not remotely interested in seeing this type of content, so i'd be happy if there were a convenient umbrella tag to put on my blacklist. i don't like the proposed name qos_(fetish) because i shouldn't have to know any field-specific terms to blacklist (or even search for!) this tag.

considering what sabisabi and trapster said before me (even though i wish we could call it raceplay as that'd be the most intuitive word, at least for me), perhaps something like race fetishism would be obvious enough to both be findable and avoid misuse?

trapster77 said:
maybe i'm biased but i don't think drawing a spade on a pokemon's ass like in post #8299586 is the same thing as making them say them racial slurs

Your example is an artist OC who owner loves using a simplified shape to imply "queen of spades" and raceplay who also tags her OC on pixiv with queen of spades
https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/18791033/illustrations/%E3%82%B9%E3%83%9A%E3%83%BC%E3%83%89%E3%81%AE%E3%82%AF%E3%82%A4%E3%83%BC%E3%83%B3
https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/18791033/illustrations/QOS
https://x.com/Peachcupp/status/1761479357602607212?s=19
https://x.com/Peachcupp/status/1761617120398581924?s=19
https://x.com/Peachcupp/status/1762003854659653828?s=19

sabisabi said:

i like the tag name "raceplay" but unfortunately the average danbooru user is dumb as rocks and would just tag it on every post of a white girl fucking a black man regardless if the existence of the black man is meant to be fetishistic or not

True. Little hope for humanity at this point since we now have to deal with that mess

Following wingdings, I guess race_fetishism could work and have it replace blacked_male, blacked_female, femblacked

gyberus said:

Your example is an artist OC who owner loves using a simplified shape to imply "queen of spades" and raceplay who also tags her OC on pixiv with queen of spades
https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/18791033/illustrations/%E3%82%B9%E3%83%9A%E3%83%BC%E3%83%89%E3%81%AE%E3%82%AF%E3%82%A4%E3%83%BC%E3%83%B3
https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/18791033/illustrations/QOS
https://x.com/Peachcupp/status/1761479357602607212?s=19
https://x.com/Peachcupp/status/1761617120398581924?s=19
https://x.com/Peachcupp/status/1762003854659653828?s=19

True. Little hope for humanity at this point since we now have to deal with that mess

Following wingdings, I guess race_fetishism could work and have it replace blacked_male, blacked_female, femblacked

ok, i updated the BUR so all the qos/blacked tags imply qos (race fetishism) and all the qoh/bleached tags imply qoh (race fetishism) and these two tags imply race fetishism so if it passes you can just block that

trapster77 said:

ok, i updated the BUR so all the qos/blacked tags imply qos (race fetishism) and all the qoh/bleached tags imply qoh (race fetishism) and these two tags imply race fetishism so if it passes you can just block that

Multi-stage implications are a hard sell at the very best of times, and none of these are the best of times. Just aliasing all these tags to race fetishism would be far simpler and work better.

Historyanon said:

Multi-stage implications are a hard sell at the very best of times, and none of these are the best of times. Just aliasing all these tags to race fetishism would be far simpler and work better.

ok, i thought it would be better to separate "blacked" and "bleached" but if you're saying that's not a good idea then i guess they won't each have its own tag. i have changed the BUR again

This has just become a complete and utter confusing mess with too many tags and the problem (personally) of editing a BUR that's already been voted on when it's no longer clear which version of the BUR the votes belong to. Please keep your fetishes in check with regards to tagging and consider how much of this is actually necessary.

Seems to me like a very unnecessary overcomplication.

Really need just three tags: one for the phrase "BLACKED" alone, one for the symbol "Queen of Spades" (including variants), and one for that Blacked aesthetic/clothing/tattoo stuff (which goes a little beyond the first two).

The current Blacked (phrase), Queen of spades symbol, and (apparently) Blacked female /Blacked male (which can be merged into one tag imo). These tags are already more than enough.

BUR #51526 has been rejected.

create implication queen_of_spades_symbol -> race_fetishism

ok, i thought i could just put everything into a single tag and solve the problem once and for all, but if that's not the case i guess it is what it is

all i really want is to stop people from adding the QoS symbol tag to every single spade

this BUR does that because then you can just tag race fetishism instead when you think it's "race play" fetish artwork instead of calling a spade a QoS symbol. i'm not the user blacklisting things so i'll stop trying to guess what people want to blacklist and if they want to add implications to the "race play" tag i suppose they can just make the BUR themselves. i really only care about the QoS symbol mistags so that's all i'm going to make a BUR for.

also i'm not sure if WRS wants me to revert the original BURs to the tag people didn't like or reject them myself so i'll just leave them like that for now

I just want you to put a bit more thought or have more discussions about things you want to tag if you feel like you can't control yourself and start hyperfocusing on your fetishes so much to the point of mass creating tags for them, as we discussed on Discord. If they were relatively out of the way and didn't upset people who have this kind of stuff blacklisted, then it would be fine and I wouldn't bother.

Also, as you yourself have expressed in frustration to me in the past regarding the way I've responded to some BURs, a little bit of wiki maintenance and tag name discussion can go a long way in helping reduce mistags, of course ignoring people who don't use the gift the world gave them between their skull and just chimp-tag things instead of actually understanding what a tag is for. Some of this seems born because of an artificial frustration.

wow, this thread pops up just as i needed it... kinda spooky.

so... im aware that queen of spades is a swinger thing... but where does queen of hearts come from? first time ive ever seen this was as a tag on here... is it also a swinger thing(i cannot find info on this) or was it just created as a reaction to blacked spam? and is there something similar for queen of clubs/diamonds? all im seeing on the subject is cartomancy and new age bullshit.

ChocoFartz_69420 said:

wow, this thread pops up just as i needed it... kinda spooky.

so... im aware that queen of spades is a swinger thing... but where does queen of hearts come from? first time ive ever seen this was as a tag on here... is it also a swinger thing(i cannot find info on this) or was it just created as a reaction to blacked spam? and is there something similar for queen of clubs/diamonds? all im seeing on the subject is cartomancy and new age bullshit.

as someone with more fetishes than fingers i don't usually judge other ppl's fetishes but in my completely honest opinion as someone with two functioning eyeballs, queen of hearts is facepalmingly stupid. basically in my head i'm GUESSING the timeline of events went like this

1. there are swingers who use a queen of spades to show preference for black men. this is completely innocuous like wearing inconspicuous trans flag, bisexual flag or asexual flag colors to identity yourself among people who can tell what that symbolism means. idk if the origin of this symbol is the spade shape looking like a black penis (this theory seems to actually exist btw i'm no making it up) or having a racist meaning of "spade" and i don't think anybody who buys a temporary tattoo of a spade has any idea either

2. the company that makes gonzo pornography under the brand VIXEN starts making interracial porn under the brand BLACKED. if there is one thing these two brands share in common is the "direction" of the pornography with women often looking straight at the camera as they have sex. idk if it's intended or not but it's like they were deliberately trying to make "cuckold pov" pornography with a hotwife character that is more interested in looking at who is watching her having sex than looking at the guy having sex with her.

3. BLACKED probably didn't actually have any porn actresses wore a spade. it was just VIXEN with black men.

4. BLACKED starts selling merch with the word "BLACKED" in it and their promos also have their logo watermark so i guess it turned into some sort of meme.

5. from there internet users start making third-party edits adding "BLACKED" to artwork other people made and someone who knows about the QoS subculture probably started adding spades too. i have no idea if it started all the way back when tumblr allowed nsfw or it's more recent but right now this is found on reddit, twitter, 4chan, rule34 and even has its own blacked booru. btw personally i'm pretty sure "sissy for bbc" was a phrase way before all of this because interracial cuckolding -> sissifying your husband is probably a pipeline in some lustomic comics but at the time even if QoS was a thing nobody knew about it to draw it on artwork. we've probably reached the point some people aren't even interested in interracial sex itself but just in the spade tattoo as a fetish. like instead of drawing a womb tattoo on a character you draw a spade tattoo. it's kind of weird following japanese crossdressers on twitter who start taking photos with QoS pubic tattoos because you know there is very few black men in japan compared to the US/UK, like... have they ever had sex with black men or are they just cosplaying as QoS? and does it even matter either way?

6. in response to all this bullshit some people got hella salty and invented "bleached" to counter "blacked". not trying to say some people may not have a thing for white men or "BWC", but "bleached" feels totally reactionary and artificial split between trolls, ppl who want to make a point that "blacked" is racist by inverting the races and a minority who are actually into interracial hentai. btw because it's a meme sometimes u see "blacked parodies" like pokemon's "CHAMPED" (post #5599425) that just borrows all the elements from "blacked" edits but replaces black men with something else. "bleached" has the same vibes but a larger community. i'm pretty sure if these names didn't sound like shit you would also have "futaed", "furred" or "yiffed" and maybe the opposite "humaned". if an artist is reading this please draw "PLANTED" out of the human domestication guide because that would be so fucking funny

7. since they are just parodying blacked they invented "queen of hearts" to match queen of spades and it could seep back from fiction to reality in time with some asians/black girls into interracial adopting it... but right now i don't think that's actually happening. i could find someone selling QoH tats on etsy and it has reviews so i guess someone did buy it tho

btw just to make u understand how insanely derivative "queen of hearts" is compared to "queen of spades", the post on urban dictionary for queen of spades is from 2006 while the one for queen of hearts is from 2019. that's why my hypothesis is that QoS had to be popularized through third-party hentai porn edits in order for QoH to exist

http://queen-of-spades.urbanup.com/1639413
http://queen-of-hearts.urbanup.com/13578192

but none of this matters. i love derivative shit. the REAL reason i think bleached is stupid is that if you try to actually browse bleached posts you'll notice you can't even tag the bleached posts as interracial or dark skin because those in "bleached" consider LITERALLY EVERY ANIME CHARACTER to be ASIAN! so the girl is asian... but the cock is caucasian! LMAO. i would take it more seriously if it at least featured black girls but most of it just looks like 2 light-skinned characters having sex. like... imagine if "blacked" was 50% black-skinned characters having sex with brown-skinned characters, that would be stupid, wouldn't it?

anyways you probably want a second opinion from someone who is actually into bleached and so maybe try dmailing one of the uploaders who posted bleached or something.

Queen of Spades is a cuckolding and race fetish that racists, cucks, sissies, and insecure people propelled in a niche porn popularity on the internet. It first started with "skin edits" where people edit the male into a person of dark skin because they can now identify the person as "Black" hence the art is now "Blacked". Rule34 Paheal have bunch of it under their "Edit" tag. Depending on the person, seeing a Black dude or of dark skin incite either racial inferiority or racial superiority often basing around the historical racist sexual stereotypes about Black men. And with the rise of political correction, "representation," and social and geopolitical issues, trolls and those into blacked porn push their edits into social media and imageboards and why it is now pain to moderate because often they don't tagged them as edits without sourcing the unedited original. Reason why Rule34 XXX is full of shitty racial edits and lack of moderation. And yes, people have edited the guys in art to have lighter skin for obvious racist reasons. Of course with the increase of netorare, queen of spades is synonymous with that genre.

The baseline of BLACKED/QOS and BLEACHED/QOH is skin color with addition of racial identification and "I prefer the penis or guy to be specific skin color/race or I can't be turned on." As long the male, penis, or person with the dick is this specific color, they can identify that person as that specific race. Does not matter if the person's skin color being fucked is same or similar to the person fucking, the person fucking has to be dark skin which can be considered "Black" or light skin which be considered "White" for the viewers. Both relies on "race superiority" and "skin color preferences," and this also stem from self insertion. People can't into the art if the guy(s) or penis(es) isn't of dark skin so they can fap while thinking they're being cucked or feel inferior to the guy, or their identity does not match the dominant male(s) in the same art whether they need the person to be dark skin to be feel secure or represented. The latter is same with light skin although in hentai it is often regarded as normal and "vanilla." However, skin color does not often equal race most of the time.

OP is not a reliable source of information because they became the sole reason tagging this crap is now a mess and get very defensive.

BUR #51576 has been rejected.

create alias blacked_female -> race_fetishism
create alias blacked_(phrase) -> race_fetishism
create alias snowbunny_tattoo -> queen_of_spades_symbol
create alias bleached_(phrase) -> race_fetishism
create alias queen_of_hearts_symbol -> race_fetishism
create alias femblacked -> race_fetishism

*Deep breath*

OK, this is a clusterfuck of microtags, almost none of which are actually needed or useful, so let's try and fix this clusterfuck. Let's get rid of everything we don't need, shall we? We could just group them all back under Queen of Spades symbol like it was before, but I can see the utility of keeping that one as a specific tag. The rest can all be grouped up under race fetishism, and the spades symbol implied to that to make it easy to blacklist.

First, the aliases.

BUR #51577 has been rejected.

create implication queen_of_spades_symbol -> race_fetishism
create implication blacked_male -> race_fetishism
create alias spade_vine_tattoo -> queen_of_spades_symbol

Next, the implication

BUR #51578 has been rejected.

nuke king_of_spades_symbol
nuke jack_of_spades_symbol
nuke blacked_parody

Neither of these add anything of worth, nor do I see them being searched often enough for an alias to be helpful. Nuking time!

What about queen_of_pokemon_symbol and queen_of_horseshoes?

Oh, for fuck's sake. That's beastiality, not race play, so I'm not touching those, but I don't see any practical difference between those and Queen of spades.

Any other trash microtags that I've missed?

Historyanon said:

Oh, for fuck's sake. That's beastiality, not race play, so I'm not touching those, but I don't see any practical difference between those and Queen of spades.

Any other trash microtags that I've missed?

Femblacked and blacked_parody

spade_vine_tattoo falls under queen_of_spades_symbol