Yeah good times but even there is a rule of "No Nuke" there is one friend of us who will press that red bottom and defend it

"No Nuke"

As if that's gonna stop them, that's why there's the Tau cannon to fly straight to the skybox.

I thought that Crossfire tag is for Crossfire the game and not Crossfire the HLDM map? Am I missing something?

bob3nko said:

I thought that Crossfire tag is for Crossfire the game and not Crossfire the HLDM map? Am I missing something?

The commentary gave me the impression that the game being depicted was Crossfire, was I mistaken?

Unbreakable said:

The commentary gave me the impression that the game being depicted was Crossfire, was I mistaken?

Yeah all that is shown here is just Half-Life 1 multiplayer.

Unbreakable said:

The commentary gave me the impression that the game being depicted was Crossfire, was I mistaken?

The game depicted is Half-Life, the map is Crossfire - a multiplayer deathmatch map. I don't think it's related to Crossfire (the game) in any way.

Master_Fake said:

Yeah all that is shown here is just Half-Life 1 multiplayer.

bob3nko said:

The game depicted is Half-Life, the map is Crossfire - a multiplayer deathmatch map. I don't think it's related to Crossfire (the game) in any way.

Thanks, it felt weird when it asked if you remember it when most people already know about Half-Life.

Unbreakable said:

Thanks, it felt weird when it asked if you remember it when most people already know about Half-Life.

I feel like Half-Life is mostly remembered for its singleplayer campaign and story, and the fact that it even had a multiplayer mode at all is rather obscure - it's definitely not something that comes to my mind when I think "Half-Life".

XionGaTaosenai said:

I feel like Half-Life is mostly remembered for its singleplayer campaign and story, and the fact that it even had a multiplayer mode at all is rather obscure - it's definitely not something that comes to my mind when I think "Half-Life".

Obscure? Certainly not at the beginning of 00's. Every "gaming cafe" in my area (eastern Ukraine) had people playing either Red Alert 2, CS 1.3-1.5, some or other NFS, Heroes 3, or Half-Life DM. Quake 3 and Starcraft: BW were for "hardcore" deathmatchers and RTSers respectively, of whom there were relatively few. Oh, and Diablo 2 of course, that one too was quite popular. And internet is the proof—ask gamers who are thirty years and older from Eastern Europe—and it's very likely that they will name some combination of those games as their favourite.

Relatively few people could afford a PC then, so gaming cafes were common even in small towns. And most people would play MP games there. And of course not many would play single-player games (where they were installed at all).

Myself, I only played through HF 1 campaign years after HF 2 and episodes were released, on my own PC.

All those games hold up better than most others I've played later. But LAN parties and gaming cafes are not there anymore. Fuck, so many people are not there anymore either.

I loved playing that map with the Surprise! mod. I'd fill the airfield with monsters (with the snarks), and then use the cannons.

MalinKeshar said:

Obscure? Certainly not at the beginning of 00's. Every "gaming cafe" in my area (eastern Ukraine) had people playing either Red Alert 2, CS 1.3-1.5, some or other NFS, Heroes 3, or Half-Life DM. Quake 3 and Starcraft: BW were for "hardcore" deathmatchers and RTSers respectively, of whom there were relatively few. Oh, and Diablo 2 of course, that one too was quite popular. And internet is the proof—ask gamers who are thirty years and older from Eastern Europe—and it's very likely that they will name some combination of those games as their favourite.

I'm exactly thirty years old, which means that I was under ten in the early 00's - I was mostly playing Pokemon and Spyro. Now, I was in America, with a mother who was very much opposed to video games in general and took a lot of convincing to even let me have that much, so I wouldn't be surprised to see someone my age who did play a whole lot of these games, but my bigger point is that even a thirty year old like me would be considered an absolute geezer by large portions of the internet today. In the "christmas cake" culture that VTubing regrettably inherited from the idol industry, you're considered "washed up" and "past your prime" when you're only 25 - and people who are 25 now would have been only two at the turn of the millennium!

Most people who play multiplayer first-person shooters today weren't even born when Half-Life was in its heyday. They'll know of Half-Life, because it's a historically significant game, but they'll only know what the history books tell them, and the history books almost exclusively talk about Half-Life's impact as a single-player game.

As far as I know America preferred consoles over PCs, quite the contrary to what happened in Europe. Cybercafes of any era never characterized for having the latest hardware while X-Box (and Halo) wasn't born yet to popularize LAN gaming among console players (they only knew about deathmatchs on single TV four splited screens).

I remember PC gamers playing Doom or Doom 2 on LAN. Half-Life and Unreal Tournament on 2000 were for people that could afford better hardware. If they ever played Half-Life through LAN, that would have been on cybercafes, work or schools after 2003. Yet, console players wouldn't know about it because it's a different world to them.