imply superman -> clark_kent (brainstorming a policy for superheroes vs civilian identities)

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DerBurgerFuhrer

This is why I was proposing the hierarchy. As we know with superheroes, many different people become the same hero.

Batman
↳ Bruce Wayne
↳ Dick Grayson
↳ Jean-Paul Valley/Azrael
↳ James Gordon
↳ Terry Mcginnis
↳ Damian Wayne
↳ Jason Todd
↳ Tim Drake
↳ Thomas Wayne
↳ Jace Fox
↳ Kal-El → Clark Kent
↳ Alfred pennyworth

Nightwing
↳ Dick Grayson
↳ Kal-El → Clark Kent
↳ Jason Todd
↳ Lor Zod → Chris Kent
↳ Kara Zor-L → Karen Starr/Paige Stetler
↳ Cheyenne Freemont
↳ Alphonse Sapienza
↳ Bruce Wayne
↳ Terry Mcginnis
↳ Damian Wayne

In regards to post #11264629:

Supergirl
↳ Kara In-Ze → Kara Kent

Outside of the suit, she's Kara Kent. If she were in the suit, the Kara Kent tag would be removed.

I'm not sure how the tags work on the back end, but if it's possible to link them and have multiple parents for child tags, then that's what I'm saying. As for the costumes, I think the best option is to make them individual General tags instead of linked to the character. Or they could be linked to the character, either option works. Also I don't think it's necessary to designate a "civilian" version of the character since their alter ego is already the civilian version.

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PersonalFowl

This is me thinking out loud, not really proposing anything. You don't really need to do both civilian->hero AND hero->civilian implications. Batman (Bruce Wayne) and Bruce Wayne (Batman) are literally identical tags. Just cutting that reduces post #11265493 to this:

Note: You could also do it the other way around where you cut Bruce Wayne (Batman) and keep Batman (Bruce Wayne). This is just a demonstration.

Now obviously expecting taggers to get this without implications is a nontrivial ask. An alias for Batman (Bruce Wayne) -> Bruce Wayne (Batman) would help, but it's easy to imagine them just forgetting to tag Batman afterwards. It'd become a common mistake like solo multiple_views or upper_body portrait. Fairly easy to garden for though, bruce_wayne_(batman) -batman.

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Ylimegirl

DerBurgerFuhrer said in forum #436092:

At the same time though, can you use a child tag without the parent tag? For example, in cases where it's Spider-Man going to school and not as Spider-Man could you use the Peter Parker

No.

DerBurgerFuhrer said in forum #436283:

This is why I was proposing the hierarchy. As we know with superheroes, many different people become the same hero.

The hierarchy you're proposing would result in every post of Tim Drake also being tagged as Batman, jsyk. It's the same way every post featuring Hatsune Miku (Append) is also tagged Hatsune Miku.

I'm not sure how the tags work on the back end, but if it's possible to link them and have multiple parents for child tags, then that's what I'm saying.

You can have multiple parents for child tags, but it will result in the same tag appearing in the list twice, see posts with Project Voltage as an example of this.

As for the costumes, I think the best option is to make them individual General tags instead of linked to the character. Or they could be linked to the character, either option works.

So which is it? Are you in support of general costume tag (used for costumes worn by multiple characters, a la school uniforms) or Chartags linked to the character (a la gacha game variants)? Having both would usually be redundant. Personally, my position in forum #432977 hasn't changed, which would be case by case basis with the civillian name being the parent tag.

At the end of the day it sounds like you're imagining a system wherein tag implications only exist for pretty nesting on the side if both tags are added to a post, which is not how tags on Danbooru work. The pretty nesting only exists as a visual aid for the viewer, and is a result of the implications automatically adding the parent tags.

PersonalFowl said in forum #436284:

This is me thinking out loud, not really proposing anything. You don't really need to do both civilian->hero AND hero->civilian implications. Batman (Bruce Wayne) and Bruce Wayne (Batman) are literally identical tags.

Sounds like you agree with the basic proposal outlined in the original post, then.

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nonamethanks

PersonalFowl said in forum #436284:

This is me thinking out loud, not really proposing anything. You don't really need to do both civilian->hero AND hero->civilian implications. Batman (Bruce Wayne) and Bruce Wayne (Batman) are literally identical tags. Just cutting that reduces post #11265493 to this:

Yeah, that's just my original proposal. The problem is that while it solves a host of issues with the current system, it leaves behind the major complaint from this thread, which is for example that you cannot reliably search for Spider-Man at once - we'd have to constantly mantain all of these "generic" shared costume tags separately from the characters, which is a lot of work.

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